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Another UI proposal: Citrus UI

Hi everyone,
Since everyone's putting their UI proposal up, I'll do so too:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Mirek2 . I'll be happy to
incorporate it into a central repository of UI proposals once it becomes
available (or tell me if it already is).

That said, I'm wondering about the state of the Design Team Kick-Off: Is it
still underway? How/when will step 4 be completed? Will the UI overhaul be
part of step 6? What is the state of the current Design Team Whiteboards?
Are all of them places for serious discussion that will lead to UI bug fixes
in LibO or are some of them just a dumping ground for improvement
suggestions?

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Re: Another UI proposal: Citrus UI

Hi,
I found the page number next to every page so useful that I
immediately opened a bug for it, I hope this was not completely
uncalled for, anyway, the bug is here:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38597 .

Otherwise I am a bit unsure if it really is enough to show a single
toolbar at a time, it could work though, if the default toolbar is
well configured. I really like the minimalist style.

Astron.

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Re: Another UI proposal: Citrus UI

2011/6/23 Astron <[hidden email]>:

> Hi,
> I found the page number next to every page so useful that I
> immediately opened a bug for it, I hope this was not completely
> uncalled for, anyway, the bug is here:
> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38597 .
>
> Otherwise I am a bit unsure if it really is enough to show a single
> toolbar at a time, it could work though, if the default toolbar is
> well configured. I really like the minimalist style.
>
> Astron.

Which page number? The "physical" page number, the "printed" page number, both?
At least on Writer it is quite common that page 1 is the "physical"
page 7, for example.
I vote for "both" ;)
Cheers
Ricardo

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Re: Another UI proposal: Citrus UI

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Hi Astron,

2011/6/23 Astron <[hidden email]>

> Hi,
> I found the page number next to every page so useful that I
> immediately opened a bug for it, I hope this was not completely
> uncalled for, anyway, the bug is here:
> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38597 .
>

:) Great.

>
> Otherwise I am a bit unsure if it really is enough to show a single
> toolbar at a time, it could work though, if the default toolbar is
> well configured.


The default configuration is still up for talks.

The main toolbar has two sections: the context bar on the left (the toolbar
that changes based on selection) and the static bar on the right (which
houses commands from non-contextual menus). Although I haven't given much
thought to how it should be done, the static bar could potentially get its
own row if the user desired.

For housing a larger number of commands, the sidebar would be a suitable
alternative to the toolbar.

(Besides the main toolbar, there would also be a vertical toolbox for
inserting stuff. You could show and hide it from the status bar.)

I really like the minimalist style.


Thanks.

>
> Astron.
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Re: Another UI proposal: Citrus UI

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2011/6/23 RGB ES <[hidden email]>

> 2011/6/23 Astron <[hidden email]>:
> > Hi,
> > I found the page number next to every page so useful that I
> > immediately opened a bug for it, I hope this was not completely
> > uncalled for, anyway, the bug is here:
> > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38597 .
> >
> > Otherwise I am a bit unsure if it really is enough to show a single
> > toolbar at a time, it could work though, if the default toolbar is
> > well configured. I really like the minimalist style.
> >
> > Astron.
>
> Which page number? The "physical" page number, the "printed" page number,
> both?
>

I'd prefer the "physical" page number.

It wouldn't be very logical to show just the printed page number, because,
by default, pages don't even have printed page numbers. And if they do have
printed page numbers, it's very possible that one group of pages goes up to
a number and then numbering is restarted. Thus, LibO could label several
pages with the same page number, which would very likely confuse the user.

As for showing both, I think that would make the page number take up too
much space and be too much of a distraction. Imagine seeing "22 (12)" next
to a page. It also takes more time to decipher which one of these is the
physical page number and which is the printed one.

As the printed page number appears somewhere on the page anyway, there's no
need to show it another time next to the page.

At least on Writer it is quite common that page 1 is the "physical"

> page 7, for example.
> I vote for "both" ;)
> Cheers
> Ricardo
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