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Calc Guide 7.1

Hello everyone,

How are we on the LO 7.1 Guides?

I am thinking of starting to work on the Calc Guide 7.1, just checked out
the CG-7001, expect to return by 26-feb.

Best regards,
Felipe Viggiano

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Re: Calc Guide 7.1

Hi Felipe,

I hope that you are well.

Regarding a 7.1 Calc Guide, great news that you are starting on it. Let
me know how I can assist you.

I have recently created a folder structure in NextCloud and drafted a
major upgrade to Chapter 13 (Calc as a Database) to remove the macros
and (hopefully) improve the description of the 12 Database functions.
This was discussed at various Documentation Team meetings.

Regards,

Steve

On 21/02/2021 18:39, Felipe Viggiano wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> How are we on the LO 7.1 Guides?
>
> I am thinking of starting to work on the Calc Guide 7.1, just checked out
> the CG-7001, expect to return by 26-feb.
>
> Best regards,
> Felipe Viggiano
>

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Re: Calc Guide 7.1

Hey Steve!

Everything is fine! Have been away due to lack of time, but now I believe I
can come back for a while.

I just went through the Calc Guide 7.1 folder and saw that you also
prepared a file with the changes needed for the Guide, that is excellent!
In the readme.md file, there is a reminder to the reviewers to take a look
at this file before starting to work on the chapter!

Keep around, your assistance is much appreciated!

Best regards,
Felipe Viggiano

Em dom., 21 de fev. de 2021 às 18:44, Steve Fanning <
[hidden email]> escreveu:

> Hi Felipe,
>
> I hope that you are well.
>
> Regarding a 7.1 Calc Guide, great news that you are starting on it. Let
> me know how I can assist you.
>
> I have recently created a folder structure in NextCloud and drafted a
> major upgrade to Chapter 13 (Calc as a Database) to remove the macros
> and (hopefully) improve the description of the 12 Database functions.
> This was discussed at various Documentation Team meetings.
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve
>
> On 21/02/2021 18:39, Felipe Viggiano wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > How are we on the LO 7.1 Guides?
> >
> > I am thinking of starting to work on the Calc Guide 7.1, just checked out
> > the CG-7001, expect to return by 26-feb.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Felipe Viggiano
> >
>
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Re: Calc Guide 7.1

Hello Team,

In the Calc Guide 7.0 Preface, there is a note on page 5, saying:

*The What’s This? facility and extended tips are being improved but in
> LibreOffice 7.0 this work is incomplete and so they are not fully
> functional.*


And the LibreOffice 7.1 Community: Release Notes report this feature:

> *Reactivated extended tips in dialogs*


It's safe to say that the work is done and the mentioned Note can be
deleted?

Best regards,
Felipe Viggiano

Em dom., 21 de fev. de 2021 às 21:05, Felipe Viggiano <
[hidden email]> escreveu:

> Hey Steve!
>
> Everything is fine! Have been away due to lack of time, but now I believe
> I can come back for a while.
>
> I just went through the Calc Guide 7.1 folder and saw that you also
> prepared a file with the changes needed for the Guide, that is excellent!
> In the readme.md file, there is a reminder to the reviewers to take a look
> at this file before starting to work on the chapter!
>
> Keep around, your assistance is much appreciated!
>
> Best regards,
> Felipe Viggiano
>
> Em dom., 21 de fev. de 2021 às 18:44, Steve Fanning <
> [hidden email]> escreveu:
>
>> Hi Felipe,
>>
>> I hope that you are well.
>>
>> Regarding a 7.1 Calc Guide, great news that you are starting on it. Let
>> me know how I can assist you.
>>
>> I have recently created a folder structure in NextCloud and drafted a
>> major upgrade to Chapter 13 (Calc as a Database) to remove the macros
>> and (hopefully) improve the description of the 12 Database functions.
>> This was discussed at various Documentation Team meetings.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> On 21/02/2021 18:39, Felipe Viggiano wrote:
>> > Hello everyone,
>> >
>> > How are we on the LO 7.1 Guides?
>> >
>> > I am thinking of starting to work on the Calc Guide 7.1, just checked
>> out
>> > the CG-7001, expect to return by 26-feb.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > Felipe Viggiano
>> >
>>
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Re: Calc Guide 7.1

Hi Felipe,

Olivier has done a lot of work with the extended tips through
Bug 118148. You can now view some extended tips if you enable the
configuration option and know where to hover your mouse pointer. (There
are clues in the Bug about where to hover!)

As for the "What's This" facility, I'm not sure of its status; I have
not witnessed it doing anything useful. Maybe Olivier can comment?

I would certainly remove the note about the extended tips not being
fully functional.

Regards,

Steve



On 23/02/2021 02:39, Felipe Viggiano wrote:

> Hello Team,
>
> In the Calc Guide 7.0 Preface, there is a note on page 5, saying:
>
> *The What’s This? facility and extended tips are being improved but in
>> LibreOffice 7.0 this work is incomplete and so they are not fully
>> functional.*
>
> And the LibreOffice 7.1 Community: Release Notes report this feature:
>
>> *Reactivated extended tips in dialogs*
>
> It's safe to say that the work is done and the mentioned Note can be
> deleted?
>
> Best regards,
> Felipe Viggiano
>
> Em dom., 21 de fev. de 2021 às 21:05, Felipe Viggiano <
> [hidden email]> escreveu:
>
>> Hey Steve!
>>
>> Everything is fine! Have been away due to lack of time, but now I believe
>> I can come back for a while.
>>
>> I just went through the Calc Guide 7.1 folder and saw that you also
>> prepared a file with the changes needed for the Guide, that is excellent!
>> In the readme.md file, there is a reminder to the reviewers to take a look
>> at this file before starting to work on the chapter!
>>
>> Keep around, your assistance is much appreciated!
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Felipe Viggiano
>>
>> Em dom., 21 de fev. de 2021 às 18:44, Steve Fanning <
>> [hidden email]> escreveu:
>>
>>> Hi Felipe,
>>>
>>> I hope that you are well.
>>>
>>> Regarding a 7.1 Calc Guide, great news that you are starting on it. Let
>>> me know how I can assist you.
>>>
>>> I have recently created a folder structure in NextCloud and drafted a
>>> major upgrade to Chapter 13 (Calc as a Database) to remove the macros
>>> and (hopefully) improve the description of the 12 Database functions.
>>> This was discussed at various Documentation Team meetings.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> On 21/02/2021 18:39, Felipe Viggiano wrote:
>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>
>>>> How are we on the LO 7.1 Guides?
>>>>
>>>> I am thinking of starting to work on the Calc Guide 7.1, just checked
>>> out
>>>> the CG-7001, expect to return by 26-feb.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Felipe Viggiano
>>>>
>>> --
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Hi
Yes I copied the extended tips from the Help to the dialogs for 7.1 (the
<ahelp> tags in Help when applied to dialogs only).

The "?" button in dialogs is not working (it may depend on the windows
manager of the operating system).

Olivier

Em 23/02/2021 08:11, Steve Fanning escreveu:

> Hi Felipe,
>
> Olivier has done a lot of work with the extended tips through
> Bug 118148. You can now view some extended tips if you enable the
> configuration option and know where to hover your mouse pointer. (There
> are clues in the Bug about where to hover!)
>
> As for the "What's This" facility, I'm not sure of its status; I have
> not witnessed it doing anything useful. Maybe Olivier can comment?
>
> I would certainly remove the note about the extended tips not being
> fully functional.
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> On 23/02/2021 02:39, Felipe Viggiano wrote:
>
>> Hello Team,
>>
>> In the Calc Guide 7.0 Preface, there is a note on page 5, saying:
>>
>> *The What’s This? facility and extended tips are being improved but in
>>> LibreOffice 7.0 this work is incomplete and so they are not fully
>>> functional.*
>>
>> And the LibreOffice 7.1 Community: Release Notes report this feature:
>>
>>> *Reactivated extended tips in dialogs*
>>
>> It's safe to say that the work is done and the mentioned Note can be
>> deleted?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Felipe Viggiano
>>
>> Em dom., 21 de fev. de 2021 às 21:05, Felipe Viggiano <
>> [hidden email]> escreveu:
>>
>>> Hey Steve!
>>>
>>> Everything is fine! Have been away due to lack of time, but now I
>>> believe
>>> I can come back for a while.
>>>
>>> I just went through the Calc Guide 7.1 folder and saw that you also
>>> prepared a file with the changes needed for the Guide, that is
>>> excellent!
>>> In the readme.md file, there is a reminder to the reviewers to take a
>>> look
>>> at this file before starting to work on the chapter!
>>>
>>> Keep around, your assistance is much appreciated!
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Felipe Viggiano
>>>
>>> Em dom., 21 de fev. de 2021 às 18:44, Steve Fanning <
>>> [hidden email]> escreveu:
>>>
>>>> Hi Felipe,
>>>>
>>>> I hope that you are well.
>>>>
>>>> Regarding a 7.1 Calc Guide, great news that you are starting on it. Let
>>>> me know how I can assist you.
>>>>
>>>> I have recently created a folder structure in NextCloud and drafted a
>>>> major upgrade to Chapter 13 (Calc as a Database) to remove the macros
>>>> and (hopefully) improve the description of the 12 Database functions.
>>>> This was discussed at various Documentation Team meetings.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>> On 21/02/2021 18:39, Felipe Viggiano wrote:
>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> How are we on the LO 7.1 Guides?
>>>>>
>>>>> I am thinking of starting to work on the Calc Guide 7.1, just checked
>>>> out
>>>>> the CG-7001, expect to return by 26-feb.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Felipe Viggiano
>>>>>
>>>> --
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Re: Calc Guide 7.1

Olivier and Steve,
Thanks for the help!

Team,
I have uploaded the CG7100-Preface on the WIP folder and it is ready for a
first review.
Just checked out the CG-7101-Introduction, expect to return it by Friday
(26feb).

A few notes:
i. Do we need to refer to LibreOffice as LibreOffice Community all the
times?
ii. LO 7.0 Calc Guide's Preface says that LO is available in over 40
languages (Page 9), but the wiki page says 115 (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LibreOffice), and I have counted 119 in the
LO Download page (
https://www.libreoffice.org/download/download/?type=rpm-x86_64&version=7.1.0&lang=pick).
The reason Iḿ pointing this out is because the prefaces from others guides
(Writer, Impress...) might display the same message.

Best regards,
Felipe Viggiano

Em ter., 23 de fev. de 2021 às 09:41, Olivier Hallot <
[hidden email]> escreveu:

> Hi
> Yes I copied the extended tips from the Help to the dialogs for 7.1 (the
> <ahelp> tags in Help when applied to dialogs only).
>
> The "?" button in dialogs is not working (it may depend on the windows
> manager of the operating system).
>
> Olivier
>
> Em 23/02/2021 08:11, Steve Fanning escreveu:
> > Hi Felipe,
> >
> > Olivier has done a lot of work with the extended tips through
> > Bug 118148. You can now view some extended tips if you enable the
> > configuration option and know where to hover your mouse pointer. (There
> > are clues in the Bug about where to hover!)
> >
> > As for the "What's This" facility, I'm not sure of its status; I have
> > not witnessed it doing anything useful. Maybe Olivier can comment?
> >
> > I would certainly remove the note about the extended tips not being
> > fully functional.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> >
> > On 23/02/2021 02:39, Felipe Viggiano wrote:
> >
> >> Hello Team,
> >>
> >> In the Calc Guide 7.0 Preface, there is a note on page 5, saying:
> >>
> >> *The What’s This? facility and extended tips are being improved but in
> >>> LibreOffice 7.0 this work is incomplete and so they are not fully
> >>> functional.*
> >>
> >> And the LibreOffice 7.1 Community: Release Notes report this feature:
> >>
> >>> *Reactivated extended tips in dialogs*
> >>
> >> It's safe to say that the work is done and the mentioned Note can be
> >> deleted?
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Felipe Viggiano
> >>
> >> Em dom., 21 de fev. de 2021 às 21:05, Felipe Viggiano <
> >> [hidden email]> escreveu:
> >>
> >>> Hey Steve!
> >>>
> >>> Everything is fine! Have been away due to lack of time, but now I
> >>> believe
> >>> I can come back for a while.
> >>>
> >>> I just went through the Calc Guide 7.1 folder and saw that you also
> >>> prepared a file with the changes needed for the Guide, that is
> >>> excellent!
> >>> In the readme.md file, there is a reminder to the reviewers to take a
> >>> look
> >>> at this file before starting to work on the chapter!
> >>>
> >>> Keep around, your assistance is much appreciated!
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> Felipe Viggiano
> >>>
> >>> Em dom., 21 de fev. de 2021 às 18:44, Steve Fanning <
> >>> [hidden email]> escreveu:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi Felipe,
> >>>>
> >>>> I hope that you are well.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regarding a 7.1 Calc Guide, great news that you are starting on it.
> Let
> >>>> me know how I can assist you.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have recently created a folder structure in NextCloud and drafted a
> >>>> major upgrade to Chapter 13 (Calc as a Database) to remove the macros
> >>>> and (hopefully) improve the description of the 12 Database functions.
> >>>> This was discussed at various Documentation Team meetings.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Steve
> >>>>
> >>>> On 21/02/2021 18:39, Felipe Viggiano wrote:
> >>>>> Hello everyone,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> How are we on the LO 7.1 Guides?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I am thinking of starting to work on the Calc Guide 7.1, just checked
> >>>> out
> >>>>> the CG-7001, expect to return by 26-feb.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>> Felipe Viggiano
> >>>>>
> >>>> --
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Hi Felipe,

With regards to your query on the number of languages stated on page 9
of the 7.0 Calc Guide.

My opinion is that we should update this statement in the next issue.
However, I'm not sure the exact number really matters in the context of
the Calc Guide Preface and I'd prefer that we didn't have to update that
number at every issue of the guide. Could we just say that there are
"over 100"?

Maybe also look at the next sentence in the Preface which states
"Additionally, there are over 70 spelling, hyphenation, and thesaurus
dictionaries available for languages, and dialects that do not have a
localized program interface." There seem to be 109 entries in  the
Extension Center with a Dictionary tag at the moment. Again, maybe
update to "over 100"?

Regards,

Steve


On 24/02/2021 02:45, Felipe Viggiano wrote:

> Olivier and Steve,
> Thanks for the help!
>
> Team,
> I have uploaded the CG7100-Preface on the WIP folder and it is ready for a
> first review.
> Just checked out the CG-7101-Introduction, expect to return it by Friday
> (26feb).
>
> A few notes:
> i. Do we need to refer to LibreOffice as LibreOffice Community all the
> times?
> ii. LO 7.0 Calc Guide's Preface says that LO is available in over 40
> languages (Page 9), but the wiki page says 115 (
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LibreOffice), and I have counted 119 in the
> LO Download page (
> https://www.libreoffice.org/download/download/?type=rpm-x86_64&version=7.1.0&lang=pick).
> The reason Iḿ pointing this out is because the prefaces from others guides
> (Writer, Impress...) might display the same message.
>
> Best regards,
> Felipe Viggiano
>
> Em ter., 23 de fev. de 2021 às 09:41, Olivier Hallot <
> [hidden email]> escreveu:
>
>> Hi
>> Yes I copied the extended tips from the Help to the dialogs for 7.1 (the
>> <ahelp> tags in Help when applied to dialogs only).
>>
>> The "?" button in dialogs is not working (it may depend on the windows
>> manager of the operating system).
>>
>> Olivier
>>
>> Em 23/02/2021 08:11, Steve Fanning escreveu:
>>> Hi Felipe,
>>>
>>> Olivier has done a lot of work with the extended tips through
>>> Bug 118148. You can now view some extended tips if you enable the
>>> configuration option and know where to hover your mouse pointer. (There
>>> are clues in the Bug about where to hover!)
>>>
>>> As for the "What's This" facility, I'm not sure of its status; I have
>>> not witnessed it doing anything useful. Maybe Olivier can comment?
>>>
>>> I would certainly remove the note about the extended tips not being
>>> fully functional.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 23/02/2021 02:39, Felipe Viggiano wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Team,
>>>>
>>>> In the Calc Guide 7.0 Preface, there is a note on page 5, saying:
>>>>
>>>> *The What’s This? facility and extended tips are being improved but in
>>>>> LibreOffice 7.0 this work is incomplete and so they are not fully
>>>>> functional.*
>>>> And the LibreOffice 7.1 Community: Release Notes report this feature:
>>>>
>>>>> *Reactivated extended tips in dialogs*
>>>> It's safe to say that the work is done and the mentioned Note can be
>>>> deleted?
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Felipe Viggiano
>>>>
>>>> Em dom., 21 de fev. de 2021 às 21:05, Felipe Viggiano <
>>>> [hidden email]> escreveu:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey Steve!
>>>>>
>>>>> Everything is fine! Have been away due to lack of time, but now I
>>>>> believe
>>>>> I can come back for a while.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just went through the Calc Guide 7.1 folder and saw that you also
>>>>> prepared a file with the changes needed for the Guide, that is
>>>>> excellent!
>>>>> In the readme.md file, there is a reminder to the reviewers to take a
>>>>> look
>>>>> at this file before starting to work on the chapter!
>>>>>
>>>>> Keep around, your assistance is much appreciated!
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Felipe Viggiano
>>>>>
>>>>> Em dom., 21 de fev. de 2021 às 18:44, Steve Fanning <
>>>>> [hidden email]> escreveu:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Felipe,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope that you are well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regarding a 7.1 Calc Guide, great news that you are starting on it.
>> Let
>>>>>> me know how I can assist you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have recently created a folder structure in NextCloud and drafted a
>>>>>> major upgrade to Chapter 13 (Calc as a Database) to remove the macros
>>>>>> and (hopefully) improve the description of the 12 Database functions.
>>>>>> This was discussed at various Documentation Team meetings.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 21/02/2021 18:39, Felipe Viggiano wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How are we on the LO 7.1 Guides?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am thinking of starting to work on the Calc Guide 7.1, just checked
>>>>>> out
>>>>>>> the CG-7001, expect to return by 26-feb.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>> Felipe Viggiano
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
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