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Good evening from Japan
The following is probably really stupid. Please bear with me for a moment.

About 3 weeks ago I got a smartphone - first time ever. I did use an
older mobile phone before, but deliberately refused to learn how to
operate that thing.
(I hate these mobile phones)

Well, I also use something like Dropbox, but supposedly more secure =
pCloud (based in Switzerland)
(if someone should sign up there and tell those guys, I referred you (no
idea how that works), maybe I get a GB extra space ... but I am not
trying to do any sort of business here)
Most of the files in there are created with LibreOffice, plus some text
files and PDFs.
This pCloud is available for Android, so I installed it. So far, so good.
LibreOffice, however, is NOT directly available for Android. Therefore I
was referred to "Collabora". Installed that too.

Problem:
When I try to open ANY file (except PDF), I get messages telling me, the
file (ALL files) are "read-only" and saving is diabled.
If I want to access any file, I have to
* make the file available offline
* choose to edit it
* choose a software to do so (here Collabora), EVERY time
-> if successful, I am again asked, whether I want to open a read-only
file, or edit a copy.
* if I edit a copy, that will then be stored somewhere in the phone and
NOT in one of the folders on pCloud.
That renders the whole idea of having files "in the cloud" useless,
doen't it?

The pCloud support send me (partially) the following:
"You can open the pCloud files with all kinds of 3rd party apps but
unfortunately, you can not save the changes in pCloud.
You'll probably need a paid version of LibreOffice in order to save the
changes to pCloud so you have to download the edited files locally and
upload to pCloud.
If you wish to edit files directly from pCloud, you can use Google Sheets."
And Google Sheets etc. is something I do NOT want to use.

BTW, the same thing happens when I use AIRSEND. (have not tried anything
else)

Has anybody any experience with using LibreOffice = Collabora with an
Android smartphone?
Is there maybe a trick?
If not, that is just fine. I consider working with this miniture machine
a form of "digital torture" anyway.

Sorry for the trouble
Thomas



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Hi Thomas,

could be the same here with LibreOffice Online for scools:
Set the mobile-phone Collabora to fullscreen. A blue pen appears. Press
on the blue pen. All must be writable now.

Regards

Robert
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Howdy Thomas,

Well, first I would direct you to an additional user support forum for
questions going forward.
https://forum.collaboraonline.com/

The short answer, IMO, is that you need pCloud to offer the ability to
sync files on your hand held device to your cloud storage and looking
at the pCloud listing feedback, at their app store listing just now,
that feature appears to have a number of limitations and shortcomings
at the moment, per feedback posts.

You have already noted that Collabora Online (Android) only works with
files stored in local storage on the handheld device. This is a
feature not likely to change given the architecture of the application
- but with a sync function of your local storage to a cloud account
doesn't pose any real loss of functionality.

So, to get what you want you need to push the pCloud folks to get that
feature working properly.

Best wishes,

Drew

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On 2021/03/12 23:11, Robert Großkopf wrote:
> Hi Thomas,
>
> could be the same here with LibreOffice Online for scools:
> Set the mobile-phone Collabora to fullscreen. A blue pen appears. Press
> on the blue pen. All must be writable now.
>
Well, **IF** I get to the Collabora full screen, I am still presented with:
"Do you want to open a read-only file / Do you want to open/edit a copy".
And this is not only with pCloud but also with Airsend the case.

Thomas

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Robert Großkopf Robert Großkopf
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Hi Thomas,
>>
> Well, **IF** I get to the Collabora full screen, I am still presented with:
> "Do you want to open a read-only file / Do you want to open/edit a copy".
> And this is not only with pCloud but also with Airsend the case.

This is the same you get if you open any document, which couldn't be
changed by you. Seems Collabora isn't allowed to write to the folders
you have connected to.

Regards

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Jean-Baptiste Faure-3 Jean-Baptiste Faure-3
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Hi,

Did you try to open the file from Collabora Office ?

Best regards.
JBF


Le 12/03/2021 à 11:32, Thomas Blasejewicz a écrit :

> Good evening from Japan
> The following is probably really stupid. Please bear with me for a moment.
>
> About 3 weeks ago I got a smartphone - first time ever. I did use an older mobile phone
> before, but deliberately refused to learn how to operate that thing.
> (I hate these mobile phones)
>
> Well, I also use something like Dropbox, but supposedly more secure = pCloud (based in
> Switzerland)
> (if someone should sign up there and tell those guys, I referred you (no idea how that
> works), maybe I get a GB extra space ... but I am not trying to do any sort of business here)
> Most of the files in there are created with LibreOffice, plus some text files and PDFs.
> This pCloud is available for Android, so I installed it. So far, so good.
> LibreOffice, however, is NOT directly available for Android. Therefore I was referred to
> "Collabora". Installed that too.
>
> Problem:
> When I try to open ANY file (except PDF), I get messages telling me, the file (ALL files)
> are "read-only" and saving is diabled.
> If I want to access any file, I have to
> * make the file available offline
> * choose to edit it
> * choose a software to do so (here Collabora), EVERY time
> -> if successful, I am again asked, whether I want to open a read-only file, or edit a copy.
> * if I edit a copy, that will then be stored somewhere in the phone and NOT in one of the
> folders on pCloud.
> That renders the whole idea of having files "in the cloud" useless, doen't it?
>
> The pCloud support send me (partially) the following:
> "You can open the pCloud files with all kinds of 3rd party apps but unfortunately, you can
> not save the changes in pCloud.
> You'll probably need a paid version of LibreOffice in order to save the changes to pCloud
> so you have to download the edited files locally and upload to pCloud.
> If you wish to edit files directly from pCloud, you can use Google Sheets."
> And Google Sheets etc. is something I do NOT want to use.
>
> BTW, the same thing happens when I use AIRSEND. (have not tried anything else)
>
> Has anybody any experience with using LibreOffice = Collabora with an Android smartphone?
> Is there maybe a trick?
> If not, that is just fine. I consider working with this miniture machine a form of
> "digital torture" anyway.
>
> Sorry for the trouble
> Thomas
>
>
>


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