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If Gmane was working correctly for me, sending a text only message
    to the mailing list would be simple.So I hope this comes out OK.:-(I can't get sending of messages to any of the Document Foundation
    newsgroups to work.The message are in my sent folder, but never
    show up in the mailing list.I receive messages via Gmane just
    fine.Where and/or to whom to I go to figure out the problem?Thanks.--~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Ken Springer"All progress depends upon the unreasonable person."George Bernard Shaw"Cheap prices make for cheap goods; cheap goods make forcheap men; and cheap men make for a cheap country!"President William McKinleyhttp://www.greeleynet.com/~wordwork/airpage.htm~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


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Hi,

Ken Springer wrote on 2011-07-29 23:47:
> If Gmane was working correctly for me, sending a text only message
>      to the mailing list would be simple.So I hope this comes out OK.:-(I can't get sending of messages to any of the Document Foundation
>      newsgroups to work.The message are in my sent folder, but never
>      show up in the mailing list.I receive messages via Gmane just
>      fine.Where and/or to whom to I go to figure out the problem?

did you send this message via GMANE, or via different means?

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Hi, Florian,On 7/30/11 2:28 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:Hi,Ken Springer wrote on 2011-07-29 23:47:If Gmane was working correctly for me,
        sending a text only message     to the mailing list would be simple.So I hope this comes
        out OK.:-(I can't get sending of messages to any of the Document
        Foundation     newsgroups to work.The message are in my sent folder, but
        never     show up in the mailing list.I receive messages via Gmane
        just     fine.Where and/or to whom to I go to figure out the
        problem?did you send this message via GMANE, or via different means?FlorianOriginal message and this reply sent via Thunderbird 5.0 after
    signing up for the mailing list.
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Hi,

Ken Springer wrote on 2011-07-30 14:00:
> Original message and this reply sent via Thunderbird 5.0 after
>      signing up for the mailing list.

do you use the same mail address at GMANE as you are subscribed with to
this list? Quoting from http://www.documentfoundation.org/contribution/ :

A note for GMANE users: In order to use GMANE to post to the mailing
lists, you need to supply your e-mail address. This is to protect our
lists from spam. You can either subscribe to the lists or their digests,
but this might defeat the purpose of using GMANE. If you do not want to
receive any e-mail from the lists, but be able to post, please subscribe
to the so-called "nomail" version of the list by attaching -nomail to
the normal subscription address.
Example: [hidden email] or
[hidden email]

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Hi, Florian,On 7/30/11 6:54 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:Hi,Ken Springer wrote on 2011-07-30 14:00:Original message and this reply sent via
        Thunderbird 5.0 aftersigning up for the mailing list.do you use the same mail address at GMANE as you are subscribed
      with to this list?I think you've possibly found the problem.:-)The answer is probably....... no.:-)Without explaining at my end (damaged a finger badly at work
    yesterday, and want to keep typing to a minimum), is there a way to
    determine the email address on file for my GMANE account?I'd bet
    it's different than this one.I didn't easily find a way to do that on the web page(s).Ken
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On 2011/07/31 12:18 PM  Ken Springer wrote:
> is there a way to determine the email address on file for my GMANE account? I'd bet it's different than this one.I didn't easily find a way to do that on the web page(s).Ken
In Thunderbird, go to "Tools/Account Settings". Select your Gmane account. The email address is
listed under the Default Identity for your Gmane account.

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Hi, Larry,

On Sun Jul 31 12:39:57 2011, Larry Gusaas wrote:
> On 2011/07/31 12:18 PM Ken Springer wrote:
>> is there a way to determine the email address on file for my GMANE
>> account? I'd bet it's different than this one.I didn't easily find a
>> way to do that on the web page(s).Ken
> In Thunderbird, go to "Tools/Account Settings". Select your Gmane
> account. The email address is listed under the Default Identity for your
> Gmane account.

Yea, knew that.  :-)

But, after thinking overnight about Florian's message, I realized that
the email address there, which is this email address, may not be the
one I originally used.  It dawned on me that originally, I had
originally signed up with the nomail option for LO, and that original
address may no longer exist.  :-)

In other words, I may now be receiving GMANE addresses via one email
address, and this message thread via another email address.

Ken

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On 2011/07/31 1:02 PM  Ken Springer wrote:

> Hi, Larry,
>
> On Sun Jul 31 12:39:57 2011, Larry Gusaas wrote:
>> On 2011/07/31 12:18 PM Ken Springer wrote:
>>> is there a way to determine the email address on file for my GMANE account? I'd bet it's
>>> different than this one.I didn't easily find a way to do that on the web page(s).Ken
>> In Thunderbird, go to "Tools/Account Settings". Select your Gmane account. The email address
>> is listed under the Default Identity for your Gmane account.
>
> Yea, knew that.  :-)
>
> But, after thinking overnight about Florian's message, I realized that the email address
> there, which is this email address, may not be the one I originally used.  It dawned on me
> that originally, I had originally signed up with the nomail option for LO, and that original
> address may no longer exist.  :-)
That would explain why you couldn't post through gmane. Since the address listed in your gmane
account is the same as the address used in this post you should now be able to post through gmane

> In other words, I may now be receiving GMANE addresses via one email address, and this
> message thread via another email address.
You do not receive gmane posts through your email address, but through your NNTP newsreader.
The email address is only used so you can also be reached by email to confirm your subscription
and so you can be contacted privately.

Try posting a message through gmane to see if it works. If so you could change your account at
LO to nomail.


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Hi, Larry,On 7/31/11 1:20 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote:On 2011/07/31 1:02 PM  Ken Springer wrote:Hi, Larry,On Sun Jul 31 12:39:57 2011, Larry Gusaas wrote:On 2011/07/31 12:18 PM Ken Springer
          wrote:is there a way to determine the email
            address on file for my GMANE account? I'd bet it's different
            than this one.I didn't easily find a way to do that on the
            web page(s).KenIn Thunderbird, go to "Tools/Account Settings". Select your
          Gmane account. The email address is listed under the Default
          Identity for your Gmane account.Yea, knew that.  :-)But, after thinking overnight about Florian's message, I
        realized that the email address there, which is this email
        address, may not be the one I originally used.  It dawned on me
        that originally, I had originally signed up with the nomail
        option for LO, and that original address may no longer exist. 
        :-)That would explain why you couldn't post through gmane. Since the
      address listed in your gmane account is the same as the address
      used in this post you should now be able to post through gmaneBut, when I signed up *again* for the LO mailing list, I'll bet I
    used a different email address, and that technically, I've got two
    mailing list accounts at LO, and that may be part of the problem.IOW, I have one account that is "no email [hidden email]" and one account at
    "[hidden email] somehow there is confusion between
    GMANE, LO, and me.So, if I could get rid of "no email [hidden email]"
    at LO, assuming this *is* the problem, maybe the problem will go
    away all on its own.  At least, it will be one address that doesn't
    have to be tracked and recorded at LO.  :-)In other words, I may now be receiving
        GMANE addresses via one email address, and this message thread
        via another email address.You do not receive gmane posts through your email address, but
      through your NNTP newsreader. The email address is only used so
      you can also be reached by email to confirm your subscription and
      so you can be contacted privately.Granted.  But, that's not quite what I'm trying to say.  :-)I'm saying I'm reading and responding to this thread using the email
    component of Thunderbird.  But, the GMANE NNTP component of
    Thunderbird is using the "blah, blah, blah" account for
    verification.  And "blah, blah, blah" no longer exists, so there is
    no verification possible.Try posting a message through gmane to see if it works. If so you
      could change your account at LO to nomail.That's what I was planning, but I want to know the cause before I
    effect a cure.  If my suspicion is correct, and I only fix the
    wordworks address, I may end up receiving duplicate messages.  :-)Ken
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On 2011/07/31 2:08 PM  Ken Springer wrote:

> Hi, Larry,On 7/31/11 1:20 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote:On 2011/07/31 1:02 PM  Ken Springer wrote:Hi, Larry,On Sun Jul 31 12:39:57 2011, Larry Gusaas wrote:On 2011/07/31 12:18 PM Ken Springer
>            wrote:is there a way to determine the email
>              address on file for my GMANE account? I'd bet it's different
>              than this one.I didn't easily find a way to do that on the
>              web page(s).KenIn Thunderbird, go to "Tools/Account Settings". Select your
>            Gmane account. The email address is listed under the Default
>            Identity for your Gmane account.Yea, knew that.  :-)But, after thinking overnight about Florian's message, I
>          realized that the email address there, which is this email
>          address, may not be the one I originally used.  It dawned on me
>          that originally, I had originally signed up with the nomail
>          option for LO, and that original address may no longer exist.
>          :-)That would explain why you couldn't post through gmane. Since the
>        address listed in your gmane account is the same as the address
>        used in this post you should now be able to post through gmaneBut, when I signed up *again* for the LO mailing list, I'll bet I
>      used a different email address, and that technically, I've got two
>      mailing list accounts at LO, and that may be part of the problem.IOW, I have one account that is "no email [hidden email]" and one account at
>      "[hidden email] somehow there is confusion between
>      GMANE, LO, and me.So, if I could get rid of "no email [hidden email]"
>      at LO, assuming this *is* the problem, maybe the problem will go
>      away all on its own.  At least, it will be one address that doesn't
>      have to be tracked and recorded at LO.  :-)In other words, I may now be receiving
>          GMANE addresses via one email address, and this message thread
>          via another email address.You do not receive gmane posts through your email address, but
>        through your NNTP newsreader. The email address is only used so
>        you can also be reached by email to confirm your subscription and
>        so you can be contacted privately.Granted.  But, that's not quite what I'm trying to say.  :-)I'm saying I'm reading and responding to this thread using the email
>      component of Thunderbird.  But, the GMANE NNTP component of
>      Thunderbird is using the "blah, blah, blah" account for
>      verification.  And "blah, blah, blah" no longer exists, so there is
>      no verification possible.Try posting a message through gmane to see if it works. If so you
>        could change your account at LO to nomail.That's what I was planning, but I want to know the cause before I
>      effect a cure.  If my suspicion is correct, and I only fix the
>      wordworks address, I may end up receiving duplicate messages.  :-)Ken
Please fix your quote attribution. It is almost impossible to pick out your comments in this mess.

You said "But, the GMANE NNTP component of Thunderbird is using the "blah, blah, blah" account
for verification." You previously stated that the address listed in you gmane account settings
is the same as the one in this email. That is the address used for verification, not your
"blah, blah, blah" address.


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Hi, Larry,On 7/31/11 2:28 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote:Please fix your quote attribution. It is almost impossible to pick
      out your comments in this mess.I would if I knew how!!!!  And *if* it was easy to do for just the
    LO messages.  I'm not happy with the way TB 5.0 works, and getting close to looking for something else.  I
    loved TB 3.6.16.  And it worked the way I wanted.This account is set to use HTML, one of the reasons I want the GMANE
    NNTP account to work. That's set to text only, and I've absolutely no interest or time to
    deal with it here for atemporary situation.I'll try some manual formatting and see what happens.You said "But, the GMANE NNTP component of Thunderbird is using
      the "blah, blah, blah" account for verification." You previously
      stated that the address listed in you gmane account settings is
      the same as the one in this email. That is the address used for
      verification, not your "blah, blah, blah" address.Apparently not.  :-(  I sent a test message to this group/mailing
    list via the GMANE NNTP account an hour and fifteen minutes ago.  It
    hasn't shown up yet.However, using the email account works fine.  :-)  As does a test
    send to the Mozilla newsserver.
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On 2011/07/31 5:28 PM  Ken Springer wrote:
> Hi, Larry,On 7/31/11 2:28 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote:Please fix your quote attribution. It is almost impossible to pick  out your comments in this mess.

> I would if I knew how!!!!  And *if* it was easy to do for just the
>      LO messages.  I'm not happy with the way TB 5.0 works, and getting close to looking for something else.  I
>      loved TB 3.6.16.  And it worked the way I wanted.This account is set to use HTML, one of the reasons I want the GMANE
>      NNTP account to work.
This list only accepts plain text. If you sent in HTML only the list  probably converted it
poorly to plain text. Change the settings in Thunderbird preferences to ask what format to send
in before sending the message. I always compose in HTML but send in plain text to mailing
lists. TB 5.0 works great for me.
> You said "But, the GMANE NNTP component of Thunderbird is using
>        the "blah, blah, blah" account for verification." You previously
>        stated that the address listed in you gmane account settings is
>        the same as the one in this email. That is the address used for
>        verification, not your "blah, blah, blah" address.

> Apparently not.  :-(  I sent a test message to this group/mailing
>      list via the GMANE NNTP account an hour and fifteen minutes ago.  It
>      hasn't shown up yet.However, using the email account works fine.  :-)  As does a test
>      send to the Mozilla newsserver.
Have you received an authorization email form gmane to your current email address? You have to
reply to it before the post is forwarded to this mailing list. Since you are using a different
email address than you used to, I suspect you haven't. Check your spam folders.

Mozilla doesn't require confirmation from you before it posts to its news-server.

PS: Your old address through gmane was <[hidden email]>.


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Hi, Larry,On 7/31/11 6:17 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote:On 2011/07/31 5:28 PM Ken Springer wrote:Hi, Larry,On
          7/31/11 2:28 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote:Please fix your quoteattribution. It is almost impossible to pick out your comments
          in thismess.I would if I
          knew how!!!! And*if*it was easy to do for just theLO messages. I'm not happy with the way TB 5.0 works, and
          gettingclose to looking for something else. Iloved TB 3.6.16. And it worked the way I wanted.This account
          is set touse HTML, one of the reasons I want the GMANENNTP account to work.This list only accepts plain text. If you sent in HTML only the
        listprobably converted it poorly to plain text. Change the settings
        inThunderbird preferences to ask what format to send in before
        sending themessage. I always compose in HTML but send in plain text to
        mailinglists. TB 5.0 works great for me.I didn't follow your suggestion above.  I don't want to turn this
      into a Thunderbird discussion, but it may be the text issue was
      being caused by a couple of extensions that I've disabled.  Both
      extensions are listed as being compatible with 5.0, but it's
      possible the two conflict with each other.I hate being a program's beta tester. Also, this is a cut and copy reply that I wrote, mistakenly, using
      the GMANE account, not the Wordworks account.  And I want to see
      how it looks, just out of plain curiosity now that I've disabled
      the two extensions.  :-) Have you received
        an authorization email form gmane to your currentemail address? You have to reply to it before the post is
        forwarded tothis mailing list. Since you are using a different email address
        thanyou used to, I suspect you haven't. Check your spam folders.I honestly don't remember, but logically I did receive it and
      replied. The new email address is the wordworks one, and it's
      obviously working.  If the message has the snowshed email address,
      then that message was sent via the GMANE interface.PS: Your old
        address through gmane [hidden email] you Larry!!!!  That's the address I was wanting to know! 
      It's the one I thought I used originally.  Later today, I'll send
      an unsubscribe email for that address.  I just hope LO doesn't
      send an unsubscription confirmation email to the snowshed address
      as that address no longer exists.-- KenMac OS X 10.6.8Firefox 5.0Thunderbird 5.0LibreOffice 3.3.3




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On 2011/08/01 9:44 AM  Ken Springer wrote:
> Have you received
>          an authorization email form gmane to your currentemail address? You have to reply to it before the post is
>          forwarded tothis mailing list. Since you are using a different email address
>          thanyou used to, I suspect you haven't. Check your spam folders.

> I honestly don't remember, but logically I did receive it and
>        replied. The new email address is the wordworks one, and it's
>        obviously working.
The new address is working when using email to the list. You have to register that address at
gmane as well. Since it doesn't work with gmane it is not working there.

> PS: Your old  address through [hidden email].
> Thank  you Larry!!!!  That's the address I was wanting to know!
>        It's the one I thought I used originally.  Later today, I'll send
>        an unsubscribe email for that address.  I just hope LO doesn't
>        send an unsubscription confirmation email to the snowshed address
>        as that address no longer exists
I found that address from posts you made to gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.user . I
did not find any posts with that address to this list -
news://news.gmane.com/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.discuss

LO will send a confirmation email when you unsubscribe. Besides, that will not solve your problem.

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On 8/1/11 10:18 AM, Larry Gusaas wrote:

>
> On 2011/08/01 9:44 AM  Ken Springer wrote:
>> Have you received
>>          an authorization email form gmane to your currentemail
>> address? You have to reply to it before the post is
>>          forwarded tothis mailing list. Since you are using a
>> different email address
>>          thanyou used to, I suspect you haven't. Check your spam
>> folders.
>
>> I honestly don't remember, but logically I did receive it and
>>        replied. The new email address is the wordworks one, and it's
>>        obviously working.
> The new address is working when using email to the list. You have to
> register that address at gmane as well. Since it doesn't work with
> gmane it is not working there.

I've not made any changes at GMANE as of yet.  And I've not found the
website to be that easy to navigate and/or understand unless you are
higher up on the technically non-challenged food chain.  This seems to
be a common problem I find with open source products as well as
newsgroup use in general.

>
>> PS: Your old  address through [hidden email].
>> Thank  you Larry!!!!  That's the address I was wanting to know!
>>        It's the one I thought I used originally.  Later today, I'll send
>>        an unsubscribe email for that address.  I just hope LO doesn't
>>        send an unsubscription confirmation email to the snowshed address
>>        as that address no longer exists
> I found that address from posts you made to
> gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.user . I did not find any
> posts with that address to this list -
> news://news.gmane.com/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.discuss

I didn't sign up the wordworks address at GMANE as of yet.  Going to
wait until I know I've got the snowshed address deleted there.
>
> LO will send a confirmation email when you unsubscribe. Besides, that
> will not solve your problem.
Do you know if the confirmation email will require a reply from me?


Ken

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On 2011/08/01 10:47 AM  Ken Springer wrote:
> I've not made any changes at GMANE as of yet.  And I've not found the website to be that easy
> to navigate and/or understand unless you are higher up on the technically non-challenged food
> chain.  This seems to be a common problem I find with open source products as well as
> newsgroup use in general.
You do not need to make any changes at the gmane website. Just enter your new email address in
the gmane account settings in Thunderbird.
The following is from http://gmane.org/faq.php :

    *Posting*

      * *What happens after I post to a Gmane newsgroup?*
        The Gmane auto-authorizer sends you an email.
      * *I didn't get any email.*
        Then the address you used in your From or Reply-To headers was invalid. Use a valid
        email address. And you can't use a "public.gmane.org" address when posting.
      * *But I did use a valid email address.*
        Perhaps you did in your From, but your Reply-To address pointed to the mailing list.
        Don't do that.
      * *I got an email from the auto-authorizer, and I answered that. Then I didn't hear
        anything more.*
        This means that your response didn't reach Gmane. Re-send your reply to the auth message.

Also check their posting page: http://gmane.org/post.php

    *Here's how it works.*

     1. The first time you post something to a newsgroup, Gmane spools the message and sends
        you an email asking you to respond.
     2. You press "reply" in your favorite mail reader, and Gmane registers this authorization.
     3. Every five minutes, a Gmane cron job goes through the spool of unsent messages, and
        sends all messages that has received authorization.
     4. No more than one message is sent per user per five minutes. If you post more than one
        message per five minutes, the messages are spooled and sent out later. No action is
        required from you.
     5. If you authorize more than one new group per hour, the authorizations are spooled, and
        handled one per hour. This is to discourage mass authorizations of groups by diligent
        spammers.

> I didn't sign up the wordworks address at GMANE as of yet.  Going to wait until I know I've
> got the snowshed address deleted there.
I thought you said you couldn't post with the workworks address. There is no need to delete the
snowshed address at gmane. Just put your workworks address in Thunderbird's account settings
for gmane.

I'll email you a screenshot of what the account settings should look like.
>> LO will send a confirmation email when you unsubscribe. Besides, that will not solve your
>> problem.
> Do you know if the confirmation email will require a reply from me?
Yes it will. Your unsubscribe email also has to be sent from the address you subscribed with,
which you say no longer exists. So there is no point or need to unsubscribe.

LO unsubscribe instructions are at:
https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/

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On Mon, 01 Aug 2011 10:47:06 -0600
Ken Springer <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> On 8/1/11 10:18 AM, Larry Gusaas wrote:
> >
> > On 2011/08/01 9:44 AM  Ken Springer wrote:
> >> Have you received
> >>          an authorization email form gmane to your currentemail
> >> address? You have to reply to it before the post is
> >>          forwarded tothis mailing list. Since you are using a
> >> different email address
> >>          thanyou used to, I suspect you haven't. Check your spam
> >> folders.
> >
> >> I honestly don't remember, but logically I did receive it and
> >>        replied. The new email address is the wordworks one, and it's
> >>        obviously working.
> > The new address is working when using email to the list. You have to
> > register that address at gmane as well. Since it doesn't work with
> > gmane it is not working there.
>
> I've not made any changes at GMANE as of yet.  And I've not found the
> website to be that easy to navigate and/or understand unless you are
> higher up on the technically non-challenged food chain.  This seems to
> be a common problem I find with open source products as well as
> newsgroup use in general.
> >
> >> PS: Your old  address through [hidden email].
> >> Thank  you Larry!!!!  That's the address I was wanting to know!
> >>        It's the one I thought I used originally.  Later today, I'll send
> >>        an unsubscribe email for that address.  I just hope LO doesn't
> >>        send an unsubscription confirmation email to the snowshed address
> >>        as that address no longer exists
> > I found that address from posts you made to
> > gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.user . I did not find any
> > posts with that address to this list -
> > news://news.gmane.com/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.discuss
>
> I didn't sign up the wordworks address at GMANE as of yet.  Going to
> wait until I know I've got the snowshed address deleted there.
> >
> > LO will send a confirmation email when you unsubscribe. Besides, that
> > will not solve your problem.
> Do you know if the confirmation email will require a reply from me?

Yes, you will need to reply to that confirmation email. An alternative
is, to send a message to [hidden email] and ask the people there to unsubscribe your non-existing address.

HTH

Sigrid

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On 8/1/11 11:20 AM, Sigrid Carrera wrote:
> Yes, you will need to reply to that confirmation email. An alternative
> is, to send a message to [hidden email] and ask the
> people there to unsubscribe your non-existing address
Thank you, Sigrid.  Email request sent.

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On 8/1/11 11:14 AM, Larry Gusaas wrote:
>
> On 2011/08/01 10:47 AM  Ken Springer wrote:
>> I've not made any changes at GMANE as of yet.  And I've not found the
>> website to be that easy to navigate and/or understand unless you are
>> higher up on the technically non-challenged food chain.  This seems
>> to be a common problem I find with open source products as well as
>> newsgroup use in general.
> You do not need to make any changes at the gmane website. Just enter
> your new email address in the gmane account settings in Thunderbird.
My info is exactly the same as your screenshot for my name and email
address, but the sending doesn't work.


> The following is from http://gmane.org/faq.php :
>
>    *Posting*
>
>      * *What happens after I post to a Gmane newsgroup?*
>        The Gmane auto-authorizer sends you an email.
>      * *I didn't get any email.*
>        Then the address you used in your From or Reply-To headers was
> invalid. Use a valid
>        email address. And you can't use a "public.gmane.org" address
> when posting.
>      * *But I did use a valid email address.*
>        Perhaps you did in your From, but your Reply-To address pointed
> to the mailing list.
>        Don't do that.
>      * *I got an email from the auto-authorizer, and I answered that.
> Then I didn't hear
>        anything more.*
>        This means that your response didn't reach Gmane. Re-send your
> reply to the auth message.
>
> Also check their posting page: http://gmane.org/post.php
>
>    *Here's how it works.*
>
>     1. The first time you post something to a newsgroup, Gmane spools
> the message and sends
>        you an email asking you to respond.
>     2. You press "reply" in your favorite mail reader, and Gmane
> registers this authorization.
>     3. Every five minutes, a Gmane cron job goes through the spool of
> unsent messages, and
>        sends all messages that has received authorization.
>     4. No more than one message is sent per user per five minutes. If
> you post more than one
>        message per five minutes, the messages are spooled and sent out
> later. No action is
>        required from you.
>     5. If you authorize more than one new group per hour, the
> authorizations are spooled, and
>        handled one per hour. This is to discourage mass authorizations
> of groups by diligent
>        spammers.
>
>> I didn't sign up the wordworks address at GMANE as of yet.  Going to
>> wait until I know I've got the snowshed address deleted there.
> I thought you said you couldn't post with the workworks address.
Yes and no.    :-D  If I send a post using the wordworks email account
to the mailing list, it will post.  If I send the identical post from
the GMANE account, with the wordworks address in the account settings,
it does *not*post.

I forgot to tell you in a previous reply, the discussion mailing list is
the only LO list I've subscribed to directly from LO.  All my posts to
the 3 other lists I follow were done using GMANE.  Except for the very
earliest posts of mine in the User list.  That was before I found out
about GMANE.

> There is no need to delete the snowshed address at gmane. Just put
> your workworks address in Thunderbird's account settings for gmane.
<snip>
> Yes it will. Your unsubscribe email also has to be sent from the
> address you subscribed with, which you say no longer exists. So there
> is no point or need to unsubscribe.
I followed Sigrid's alternative suggestion, and sent a request.
> LO unsubscribe instructions are at:
> https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/

Yep, know that.  :grin:  I did that originally with the snowshed address
and then resubscribed using the nomail option.

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President William McKinley

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Ken Springer wrote:
> Hi, Larry,On 7/31/11 2:28 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote:Please fix your quote attribution. It is almost impossible to pick
>       out your comments in this mess.I would if I knew how!!!!  And *if* it was easy to do for just the
>     LO messages.  I'm not happy with the way TB 5.0 works, and getting close to looking for something else.  I
>     loved TB 3.6.16.  And it worked the way I wanted.
>  
I am using TB 2.0, I absolutely HATE the newer versions, I really have
to disagree with the feature and UI choices the developers have made
recently.  I much preferred the way the program used to work, so I found
an old copy that I had installed on a machine that I was about to clean
up and sell.  That's what I am now using.  I hope that the developers
who are contributing to LO make better choices than were made on TB, at
least in my opinion.

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