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How do I restrict a Writer page not to overwrite part of the background image

I have a background image that consume the top and left side of every
page in the document, which is what I want.

However, I can't seem to expand the left margin so that it sits inside
the image frame and make it stick when I paste the clipboard contents
on the page.  The paste spills all over the left side image.

What's the best way to do this?

I'm using LO 6.06 on Xubuntu 18.04.

Thanks.
MR

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Re: How do I restrict a Writer page not to overwrite part of the background image

Repost - does anyone know how to set up a text frame like this?

I tried that one (text box), but it didn't stay in place when I tried
to paste the copied text into it.

I'd hate to have to use Word for this...

Thanks.

MR


On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 8:46 PM, MR ZenWiz <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I have a background image that consume the top and left side of every
> page in the document, which is what I want.
>
> However, I can't seem to expand the left margin so that it sits inside
> the image frame and make it stick when I paste the clipboard contents
> on the page.  The paste spills all over the left side image.
>
> What's the best way to do this?
>
> I'm using LO 6.06 on Xubuntu 18.04.
>
> Thanks.
> MR

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Hi,

MR ZenWiz schrieb am 08-Sep-18 um 05:46:
> I have a background image that consume the top and left side of every
> page in the document, which is what I want.
>
> However, I can't seem to expand the left margin so that it sits inside
> the image frame and make it stick when I paste the clipboard contents
> on the page.  The paste spills all over the left side image.

Set the image as background image of the page and set the page margins
so that the image is at the correct position. The "Border" tab of the
page style dialog has a "padding" section. There you can set an
additional distance between inner edge of the margin area of the page
and start of the text. This padding restricts the usable area for text.

>
> What's the best way to do this?

There exist no "best" way.

Other ideas:
Anchor the image to the header, set it to wrap-through and sent it to
background. Then adapt the page margins.

Set the image as background image of the page and set the page margins
so that the image is at the correct position. Do all your work in
frames. For text flow to next page use linked frames.

Kind regards
Regina

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Re: How do I restrict a Writer page not to overwrite part of the background image

On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 1:15 PM, Regina Henschel
<[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Set the image as background image of the page and set the page margins so
> that the image is at the correct position. The "Border" tab of the page
> style dialog has a "padding" section. There you can set an additional
> distance between inner edge of the margin area of the page and start of the
> text. This padding restricts the usable area for text.
>
I tried that, but there's something I don't quite follow and the
borders idea looked great -until I opened the file with Word to see
what it looked like.  after that, it was completely messed up and I
had to start all over.

Why check it with Word?  Because that's what everyone else who will
see this uses.  LO is fabulous and Word is so-so, but so-so x millions
of users vs. the paltry few who use LO takes the cake every time.  (I
wold have used the word "trump," but I'd rather not....)

If i knew how to do this in Word, I would do that, but I'm just not a WP expert.

> There exist no "best" way.
>
True.

> Other ideas:
> Anchor the image to the header, set it to wrap-through and sent it to
> background. Then adapt the page margins.
>
Not quite sure what all that means, but I tried using the top and left
sidebar as images, and the "left" sidebar refused to anchor on the
left - when I moved it, it jumped to the right and refused to budge.

> Set the image as background image of the page and set the page margins so
> that the image is at the correct position. Do all your work in frames. For
> text flow to next page use linked frames.
>
That was what I tried first.  For some reason, when I pasted the
copied text, it kept its own format and splattered all over the left
side column.

I appreciate the input, but I confess, after using LO since it came
out and OO before that, I don't know it well enough for this kind of
fancy work, and I don't have the time to set aside to learn all the
nice features the Writer has.

I just wrote up the doc as a straight text document with nice if
boring formatting.  It's easy to read and doesn't give me headaches.

Maybe someday when I need to get fancier....

Thanks again.  Sorry to have bothered the list.

Mark

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MR ZenWiz wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 1:15 PM, Regina Henschel
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Set the image as background image of the page and set the page margins so
>> that the image is at the correct position. The "Border" tab of the page
>> style dialog has a "padding" section. There you can set an additional
>> distance between inner edge of the margin area of the page and start of the
>> text. This padding restricts the usable area for text.
>>
> I tried that, but there's something I don't quite follow and the
> borders idea looked great -until I opened the file with Word to see
> what it looked like.  after that, it was completely messed up and I
> had to start all over.

If you're not already doing so, be sure to save your main working copy
of the file in ODF Text (.odt) format, which supports all of
LibreOffice's features. At least then if anything is lost in the
conversion to Word's format, you don't lose the original. Then save a
copy in Word format for sending to other people. You might have better
luck saving as Word 97-2003 (.doc) rather than the newer .docx format.

It's possible that the particular layout options you're trying to use
are not supported in Word and/or its file formats, in which case the
conversion will be a best effort and may not appear exactly the same
even if reopened in LibreOffice. If one way of getting the required
layout doesn't come out right in Word, it may be worth trying others.

> Why check it with Word?  Because that's what everyone else who will
> see this uses.  LO is fabulous and Word is so-so, but so-so x millions
> of users vs. the paltry few who use LO takes the cake every time.  (I
> wold have used the word "trump," but I'd rather not....)

If the other people only need to read the document, you'd be better off
exporting to PDF format and sending them that. That doesn't really help
if those other people need to be able to modify the document though, or
if this is a template for them to fill in the text.

> If i knew how to do this in Word, I would do that, but I'm just not a WP expert.
>
>> There exist no "best" way.
>>
> True.
>
>> Other ideas:
>> Anchor the image to the header, set it to wrap-through and sent it to
>> background. Then adapt the page margins.
>>
> Not quite sure what all that means, but I tried using the top and left
> sidebar as images, and the "left" sidebar refused to anchor on the
> left - when I moved it, it jumped to the right and refused to budge.
>
>> Set the image as background image of the page and set the page margins so
>> that the image is at the correct position. Do all your work in frames. For
>> text flow to next page use linked frames.
>>
> That was what I tried first.  For some reason, when I pasted the
> copied text, it kept its own format and splattered all over the left
> side column.

I may be wrong, but I don't think the page margins should be affected by
pasting text. Make sure you are setting the page margins, and not the
paragraph indent (which can be affected by pasting formatted text).

Dragging the arrows on the top ruler changes the paragraph indent, which
is not what you want. If you position the mouse cursor between the
points of the two arrows near the left of that ruler, you can move the
page margin. It may be easier to go to the Format > Page menu and set
the margins there though, rather than trying to click and drag in just
the right place.

> I appreciate the input, but I confess, after using LO since it came
> out and OO before that, I don't know it well enough for this kind of
> fancy work, and I don't have the time to set aside to learn all the
> nice features the Writer has.

We're all constantly learning. I've learned quite a lot just by being
subscribed to this list and reading other people's queries, solutions,
and general suggestions. I started with OpenOffice 1.0.x, and still keep
finding out about better (or just alternative) ways of doing things I've
been doing for years or other features I can make use of.

> I just wrote up the doc as a straight text document with nice if
> boring formatting.  It's easy to read and doesn't give me headaches.
>
> Maybe someday when I need to get fancier....
>
> Thanks again.  Sorry to have bothered the list.
>
> Mark

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