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How to use LibreOffice to blur and save a PNG?

I have a PNG image.  I need to edit the image to blur out some portions that I don't want other people to see, and then save that modified PNG image.

Is this something that LibreOffice can do?  I tried running Draw and then opening the PNG.  I believe the "Smooth" operation is what I need.  I can see this in the "Filter" dropdown when I click on the image, but I'm not sure what to do with that.

I'm guessing if I can figure out how to properly modify the image, I would use the "Save Image ..." menu item in the context menu to save the modified PNG.  Is this correct?

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Regina Henschel Regina Henschel
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Hi David,

KARR, DAVID schrieb:
> I have a PNG image.  I need to edit the image to blur out some
> portions that I don't want other people to see, and then save that
> modified PNG image.
>
> Is this something that LibreOffice can do?

LibreOffice has only some rudimentary things you can do, for example
crop an image, or combine an image with text. It has some filters, but
they work all on the whole image. LibreOffice is not designed for
editing raster graphics, Draw is a tool for editing vector graphics. So
no, LibreOffice is the wrong tool. You can try The Gimp instead.

Kind regards
Regina

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On 07/10/2015 02:27 PM, Regina Henschel wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> KARR, DAVID schrieb:
>> I have a PNG image.  I need to edit the image to blur out some
>> portions that I don't want other people to see, and then save that
>> modified PNG image.
>>
>> Is this something that LibreOffice can do?
>
> LibreOffice has only some rudimentary things you can do, for example
> crop an image, or combine an image with text. It has some filters, but
> they work all on the whole image. LibreOffice is not designed for
> editing raster graphics, Draw is a tool for editing vector graphics.
> So no, LibreOffice is the wrong tool. You can try The Gimp instead.
>
> Kind regards
> Regina
>

The good thing about GIMP, if you cannot find the needed
function/filter/plug-in built in the install, there is a large plug-in
"database" site.



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Re: How to use LibreOffice to blur and save a PNG?

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       LO is not designed to do that;
           but there are numerous programs which will do a very good job
for you -
          many of these are even free for the individual user and can be
located
            http://www.techsupportalert.com/



From: KARR, DAVID <[hidden email]>
Date: Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 12:20 PM
Subject: [libreoffice-users] How to use LibreOffice to blur and save a PNG?
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>


I have a PNG image.  I need to edit the image to blur out some portions
that I don't want other people to see, and then save that modified PNG
image.

Is this something that LibreOffice can do?  I tried running Draw and then
opening the PNG.  I believe the "Smooth" operation is what I need.  I can
see this in the "Filter" dropdown when I click on the image, but I'm not
sure what to do with that.

I'm guessing if I can figure out how to properly modify the image, I would
use the "Save Image ..." menu item in the context menu to save the modified
PNG.  Is this correct?

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Le 11 juillet 2015 02:07:42 GMT+02:00, anne-ology <[hidden email]> a écrit :

>       LO is not designed to do that;
>          but there are numerous programs which will do a very good job
>for you -
>         many of these are even free for the individual user and can be
>located
>            http://www.techsupportalert.com/
>
>
>
>From: KARR, DAVID <[hidden email]>
>Date: Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 12:20 PM
>Subject: [libreoffice-users] How to use LibreOffice to blur and save a
>PNG?
>To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
>
>
>I have a PNG image.  I need to edit the image to blur out some portions
>that I don't want other people to see, and then save that modified PNG
>image.
>
>Is this something that LibreOffice can do?  I tried running Draw and
>then
>opening the PNG.  I believe the "Smooth" operation is what I need.  I
>can
>see this in the "Filter" dropdown when I click on the image, but I'm
>not
>sure what to do with that.
>
>I'm guessing if I can figure out how to properly modify the image, I
>would
>use the "Save Image ..." menu item in the context menu to save the
>modified
>PNG.  Is this correct?
>
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Hi,

Sorry to nitpick here but I am not dure we want to recommend freeware (and not free and open source software) to our users. Many Freeware download sites are famous to bundle spyware in the software they distribute.

I am a bit surprized to see this "techsupportalert" being mentioned several times by an actual moderator of this mailing list.

There are a few websites listing free and open source software:
http://www.opensourcewindows.org
http://www.opensourcemac.org
http://www.osalt.com

And many more.

Best,

Charles.

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2015-07-11 1:43 GMT+02:00 Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster <
[hidden email]>:

> On 07/10/2015 02:27 PM, Regina Henschel wrote:
>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> KARR, DAVID schrieb:
>>
>>> I have a PNG image.  I need to edit the image to blur out some
>>> portions that I don't want other people to see, and then save that
>>> modified PNG image.
>>>
>>> Is this something that LibreOffice can do?
>>>
>>
>> LibreOffice has only some rudimentary things you can do, for example crop
>> an image, or combine an image with text. It has some filters, but they work
>> all on the whole image. LibreOffice is not designed for editing raster
>> graphics, Draw is a tool for editing vector graphics. So no, LibreOffice is
>> the wrong tool. You can try The Gimp instead.
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Regina
>>
>>
> The good thing about GIMP, if you cannot find the needed
> function/filter/plug-in built in the install, there is a large plug-in
> "database" site.
>

​David, here the URL of the​

​GIMP webpage which explains how to use the blur​/sharpen tool :
http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-tool-convolve.html....

Good luck !

Henri

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On 07/11/2015 04:55 AM, M Henri Day wrote:

> 2015-07-11 1:43 GMT+02:00 Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster <
> [hidden email]>:
>
>> On 07/10/2015 02:27 PM, Regina Henschel wrote:
>>
>>> Hi David,
>>>
>>> KARR, DAVID schrieb:
>>>
>>>> I have a PNG image.  I need to edit the image to blur out some
>>>> portions that I don't want other people to see, and then save that
>>>> modified PNG image.
>>>>
>>>> Is this something that LibreOffice can do?
>>>>
>>> LibreOffice has only some rudimentary things you can do, for example crop
>>> an image, or combine an image with text. It has some filters, but they work
>>> all on the whole image. LibreOffice is not designed for editing raster
>>> graphics, Draw is a tool for editing vector graphics. So no, LibreOffice is
>>> the wrong tool. You can try The Gimp instead.
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>> Regina
>>>
>>>
>> The good thing about GIMP, if you cannot find the needed
>> function/filter/plug-in built in the install, there is a large plug-in
>> "database" site.
>>
> ​David, here the URL of the​
>
> ​GIMP webpage which explains how to use the blur​/sharpen tool :
> http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-tool-convolve.html....
>
> Good luck !
>
> Henri
>

Henri - - - Did you decide to send a reply both to myself and the list?  
That is what you did.



One of these days I will read the GIMP docs.  I have been using it as a
primary image tool [not vector] for 5 or more years of Ubuntu or Mint
Linux, with Paint Shop Pro as my default for Windows on my systems.  I
also add GIMP to my Window system.


As for Charles post - - - YES, you have to be careful about where you
look for and download the freeware and open source software. You never
know what may be added to the downloads.  I always go to the "official"
site to download most of these packages I want.  To be honest, I have a
web page list, which I have not kept up-to-day, where I store links to
the more common sites I tend to go to.  That way I do not have to
remember the "exact" titles of the software I want to download and not
need to Google then to find where to download them.  Actually, That
whole domain web pages needs to be worked on.  So, here it the link to
my list.  When I have time I will update it.
http://lungstrom.com/list/




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2015-07-11 15:30 GMT+02:00 Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster <
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> On 07/11/2015 04:55 AM, M Henri Day wrote:
>
>> 2015-07-11 1:43 GMT+02:00 Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster <
>> [hidden email]>:
>>
>
​<...>​


>>>  ​David, here the URL of the​
>>
>> ​GIMP webpage which explains how to use the blur​/sharpen tool :
>> http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-tool-convolve.html....
>>
>> Good luck !
>>
>> Henri
>>
>>
> Henri - - - Did you decide to send a reply both to myself and the list?
> That is what you did.
>
>
>
> One of these days I will read the GIMP docs.  I have been using it as a
> primary image tool [not vector] for 5 or more years of Ubuntu or Mint
> Linux, with Paint Shop Pro as my default for Windows on my systems.  I also
> add GIMP to my Window system.
>
>
> As for Charles post - - - YES, you have to be careful about where you look
> for and download the freeware and open source software. You never know what
> may be added to the downloads.  I always go to the "official" site to
> download most of these packages I want.  To be honest, I have a web page
> list, which I have not kept up-to-day, where I store links to the more
> common sites I tend to go to.  That way I do not have to remember the
> "exact" titles of the software I want to download and not need to Google
> then to find where to download them.  Actually, That whole domain web pages
> needs to be worked on.  So, here it the link to my list.  When I have time
> I will update it.
> http://lungstrom.com/list/


​Yep, that was my intention, as also in the case of the present reply. I
hope that by doing so I do not inadvertently offend....

Henri

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Hi :)
Gimp is probably waaay more than is needed for such a simple task - it's
comparable to Photoshop but with a MUCH friendlier price-tag but still
relatively heavy compared to simpler tools.  There are numerous much
simpler, free and safe alternatives.  Some of which are on-line, "Cloud"
apps and work on any platform (Windows, Gnu&Linux, Mac or BSD), others are
installable on many platforms but many are restricted to one or other
platform.  Sadly we don't know which platform you are using so it's
difficult to make specific recommendations - which leads us to guess you
are probably on one version of Windows or another.  Just being "free" is a
worry without having the quality assurance of being "Open Source" (such as
using a license like GPL, LGPL, MPL).

However what you are trying to do is very simple in Gimp and the task would
help you over-come the initial hurdle of using Gimp, which is the
bewilderingly vast amount of buttons and menus - all of which you can
ignore for your task.

Initially my favourite way was to use a paint-brush, pencil, spray-gun or
smudge tool.  Then i found that if i click at the beginning of the 'word'
and then let go and move the mouse arrow to the end of the 'word' and do a
keyboard-Shift and click then it makes a very neat straight-line.

Then i found how to change from black ink to a gentler colour (or gray) or
to increase the smudge level rather than just smudging many times, then i
found other filters and more interesting ways of doing it.  Eventually i
settled on doing it "the easy way", for me. :)


So, i heartily recommend Gimp as others have done, despite it initially
looking a bit daunting and taking a long time to start-up.  There may well
be better or more appropriate tools but Gimp allows you to do so much that
it's well worth using for fairly simple things like this to gain
familiarity.


Henri i don't think you caused offence.  There was an unfortunate post by
someone else that looked a bit hot&bothered but open source "customer
support" often seems to have one or two people who seem to think it's
clever to be rude, or maybe are incapable of being anything else.

Obviously "image editing" is not this mailing list's primary area of
knowledge so it might be better to take our advice on this "with a pinch of
salt".

Draw really seems to be designed to do "vector graphics" or/and fairly
simple diagrams - it can be pushed a LOT further but in Open Source it's
often fairly easy to find a specialist tool for doing the work and then use
the results in other programs.  Unlike tools made for or by Microsoft the
various Open Source programs usually achieve compatibility between each
other.  So, i edit with Gimp and then drag the Png, Jpg or Gif (or
whatever) into Draw or Writer or whatever if i need them in a document.

Regards from
Tom :)




On 11 July 2015 at 14:41, M Henri Day <[hidden email]> wrote:

> 2015-07-11 15:30 GMT+02:00 Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster <
> [hidden email]>:
>
> > On 07/11/2015 04:55 AM, M Henri Day wrote:
> >
> >> 2015-07-11 1:43 GMT+02:00 Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster <
> >> [hidden email]>:
> >>
> >
> ​<...>​
>
>
> >>>  ​David, here the URL of the​
> >>
> >> ​GIMP webpage which explains how to use the blur​/sharpen tool :
> >> http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-tool-convolve.html....
> >>
> >> Good luck !
> >>
> >> Henri
> >>
> >>
> > Henri - - - Did you decide to send a reply both to myself and the list?
> > That is what you did.
> >
> >
> >
> > One of these days I will read the GIMP docs.  I have been using it as a
> > primary image tool [not vector] for 5 or more years of Ubuntu or Mint
> > Linux, with Paint Shop Pro as my default for Windows on my systems.  I
> also
> > add GIMP to my Window system.
> >
> >
> > As for Charles post - - - YES, you have to be careful about where you
> look
> > for and download the freeware and open source software. You never know
> what
> > may be added to the downloads.  I always go to the "official" site to
> > download most of these packages I want.  To be honest, I have a web page
> > list, which I have not kept up-to-day, where I store links to the more
> > common sites I tend to go to.  That way I do not have to remember the
> > "exact" titles of the software I want to download and not need to Google
> > then to find where to download them.  Actually, That whole domain web
> pages
> > needs to be worked on.  So, here it the link to my list.  When I have
> time
> > I will update it.
> > http://lungstrom.com/list/
>
>
> ​Yep, that was my intention, as also in the case of the present reply. I
> hope that by doing so I do not inadvertently offend....
>
> Henri
>
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       That is *not* a 'freeware' site;
           anyone who has gone there would know this.

       If you enjoy LO, then you should also enjoy their dedicated efforts.



From: Charles-H. Schulz <[hidden email]>
Date: Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 2:29 AM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to use LibreOffice to blur and save a
PNG?
To: anne-ology <[hidden email]>, [hidden email]


Le 11 juillet 2015 02:07:42 GMT+02:00, anne-ology <[hidden email]> a
écrit :

>       LO is not designed to do that;
>          but there are numerous programs which will do a very good job
>for you -
>         many of these are even free for the individual user and can be
>located
>            http://www.techsupportalert.com/
>
>
>
>From: KARR, DAVID <[hidden email]>
>Date: Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 12:20 PM
>Subject: [libreoffice-users] How to use LibreOffice to blur and save a
>PNG?
>To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
>
>
>I have a PNG image.  I need to edit the image to blur out some portions
>that I don't want other people to see, and then save that modified PNG
>image.
>
>Is this something that LibreOffice can do?  I tried running Draw and
>then
>opening the PNG.  I believe the "Smooth" operation is what I need.  I
>can
>see this in the "Filter" dropdown when I click on the image, but I'm
>not
>sure what to do with that.
>
>I'm guessing if I can figure out how to properly modify the image, I
>would
>use the "Save Image ..." menu item in the context menu to save the
>modified
>PNG.  Is this correct?
>



Hi,

Sorry to nitpick here but I am not sure we want to recommend freeware (and
not free and open source software) to our users. Many Freeware download
sites are famous to bundle spyware in the software they distribute.

I am a bit surprized to see this "techsupportalert" being mentioned several
times by an actual moderator of this mailing list.

There are a few websites listing free and open source software:
http://www.opensourcewindows.org
http://www.opensourcemac.org
http://www.osalt.com

And many more.

Best,
Charles

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Re: How to use LibreOffice to blur and save a PNG?

Sorry Anne, but I'm going to have to disagree. It is not because I want
to be unpleasant or anything, but as a moderator of this list you should
perhaps know better than sending users to this kind of site.

Anyone going to the site you mention will be presented with a list of
software (mostly for Windows, others available as SaaS). As far as I can
tell *none of them* are Free and Open Source Software. Clicking on each
link will point to software that is actual freeware or donationware:
- none of them has a Free/Open Source Software licence
- none of them has an open development model

Surely you do make the difference between a software like LibreOffice
and software listed on the site? Again, I do not point this out to sound
unpleasant or unfriendly, but it is not wise to advertise this kind of
software on a users mailing list of a Free and Open Source Software.

I hope you'll understand what the issue is.

Best,

Charles.

Le 13.07.2015 15:57, anne-ology a écrit :

> That is *not* a 'freeware' site;
>            anyone who has gone there would know this.
>
>        If you enjoy LO, then you should also enjoy their dedicated
> efforts.
>
>
>
> From: Charles-H. Schulz <[hidden email]>
> Date: Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 2:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to use LibreOffice to blur and
> save a
> PNG?
> To: anne-ology <[hidden email]>, [hidden email]
>
>
> Le 11 juillet 2015 02:07:42 GMT+02:00, anne-ology <[hidden email]>
> a
> écrit :
>
>>       LO is not designed to do that;
>>          but there are numerous programs which will do a very good job
>> for you -
>>         many of these are even free for the individual user and can be
>> located
>>            http://www.techsupportalert.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> From: KARR, DAVID <[hidden email]>
>> Date: Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 12:20 PM
>> Subject: [libreoffice-users] How to use LibreOffice to blur and save a
>> PNG?
>> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
>>
>>
>> I have a PNG image.  I need to edit the image to blur out some
>> portions
>> that I don't want other people to see, and then save that modified PNG
>> image.
>>
>> Is this something that LibreOffice can do?  I tried running Draw and
>> then
>> opening the PNG.  I believe the "Smooth" operation is what I need.  I
>> can
>> see this in the "Filter" dropdown when I click on the image, but I'm
>> not
>> sure what to do with that.
>>
>> I'm guessing if I can figure out how to properly modify the image, I
>> would
>> use the "Save Image ..." menu item in the context menu to save the
>> modified
>> PNG.  Is this correct?
>>
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Sorry to nitpick here but I am not sure we want to recommend freeware
> (and
> not free and open source software) to our users. Many Freeware download
> sites are famous to bundle spyware in the software they distribute.
>
> I am a bit surprized to see this "techsupportalert" being mentioned
> several
> times by an actual moderator of this mailing list.
>
> There are a few websites listing free and open source software:
> http://www.opensourcewindows.org
> http://www.opensourcemac.org
> http://www.osalt.com
>
> And many more.
>
> Best,
> Charles


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RE: How to use LibreOffice to blur and save a PNG?

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I highly recommend gimp. I use it often as it does a great job with stuff like that.

-Mark
________________________________
From: anne-ology<mailto:[hidden email]>
Sent: ‎7/‎13/‎2015 8:58 AM
To: Charles<mailto:[hidden email]>
Cc: [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to use LibreOffice to blur and save a PNG?

       That is *not* a 'freeware' site;
           anyone who has gone there would know this.

       If you enjoy LO, then you should also enjoy their dedicated efforts.



From: Charles-H. Schulz <[hidden email]>
Date: Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 2:29 AM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to use LibreOffice to blur and save a
PNG?
To: anne-ology <[hidden email]>, [hidden email]


Le 11 juillet 2015 02:07:42 GMT+02:00, anne-ology <[hidden email]> a
écrit :

>       LO is not designed to do that;
>          but there are numerous programs which will do a very good job
>for you -
>         many of these are even free for the individual user and can be
>located
>            http://www.techsupportalert.com/
>
>
>
>From: KARR, DAVID <[hidden email]>
>Date: Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 12:20 PM
>Subject: [libreoffice-users] How to use LibreOffice to blur and save a
>PNG?
>To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
>
>
>I have a PNG image.  I need to edit the image to blur out some portions
>that I don't want other people to see, and then save that modified PNG
>image.
>
>Is this something that LibreOffice can do?  I tried running Draw and
>then
>opening the PNG.  I believe the "Smooth" operation is what I need.  I
>can
>see this in the "Filter" dropdown when I click on the image, but I'm
>not
>sure what to do with that.
>
>I'm guessing if I can figure out how to properly modify the image, I
>would
>use the "Save Image ..." menu item in the context menu to save the
>modified
>PNG.  Is this correct?
>



Hi,

Sorry to nitpick here but I am not sure we want to recommend freeware (and
not free and open source software) to our users. Many Freeware download
sites are famous to bundle spyware in the software they distribute.

I am a bit surprized to see this "techsupportalert" being mentioned several
times by an actual moderator of this mailing list.

There are a few websites listing free and open source software:
http://www.opensourcewindows.org
http://www.opensourcemac.org
http://www.osalt.com

And many more.

Best,
Charles

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Re: How to use LibreOffice to blur and save a PNG?

In reply to this post by KARR, DAVID
       That is so *un*true.

       If you were to actually go there, you would know they recommend LO -
            (in fact, that's how I learned of LO)

       If you were to actually go there, you would know they are so opposed
to the freeware/adware software
          and only recommend 'clean' software, that are made and handled by
reputable companies and/or individuals.

       They do not cater to WINdows; in fact, they often recommend others;
          (they started to get away from the MSFT built-in software)

       They are strictly volunteer based; therefore no one has undue
influence;
          check out their various blogs on whatever program/topic to see
how the various discussions flow ...
         or the various articles pertaining to any software category where
not one, but several programs are rated with pros & cons.

       They do not recommend 'freeware' or donation-ware -
           although some of the individuals making software do state they
would appreciate a donation of any amount at any time;
         you should notice, that LO also is in this category.

       I was not - nor have I, been advertising this;
           but when I think that someone would be interested in a
program(s), which I thoroughly enjoy using -
          I think they would be interested in knowing where I located
it/them.

       For example, C-Cleaner, Avast, IrfanView, VLC, ...
           are in this category - and these are all rated at the top of
their respective categories.



From: Charles-H. Schulz <[hidden email]>
Date: Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 9:27 AM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to use LibreOffice to blur and save a
PNG?
To: [hidden email]
Cc: Florian Effenberger <[hidden email]>


Sorry Anne, but I'm going to have to disagree. It is not because I want to
be unpleasant or anything, but as a moderator of this list you should
perhaps know better than sending users to this kind of site.

Anyone going to the site you mention will be presented with a list of
software (mostly for Windows, others available as SaaS). As far as I can
tell *none of them* are Free and Open Source Software. Clicking on each
link will point to software that is actual freeware or donationware:
- none of them has a Free/Open Source Software licence
- none of them has an open development model

Surely you do make the difference between a software like LibreOffice and
software listed on the site? Again, I do not point this out to sound
unpleasant or unfriendly, but it is not wise to advertise this kind of
software on a users mailing list of a Free and Open Source Software.

I hope you'll understand what the issue is.

Best,
Charles.



Le 13.07.2015 15:57, anne-ology a écrit :

 That is *not* a 'freeware' site;

>
>            anyone who has gone there would know this.
>
>        If you enjoy LO, then you should also enjoy their dedicated efforts.
>
>
>
> From: Charles-H. Schulz <[hidden email]>
> Date: Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 2:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to use LibreOffice to blur and save a
> PNG?
> To: anne-ology <[hidden email]>, [hidden email]
>
>
> Le 11 juillet 2015 02:07:42 GMT+02:00, anne-ology <[hidden email]> a
> écrit :
>
>        LO is not designed to do that;
>>          but there are numerous programs which will do a very good job
>> for you -
>>         many of these are even free for the individual user and can be
>> located
>>            http://www.techsupportalert.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> From: KARR, DAVID <[hidden email]>
>> Date: Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 12:20 PM
>> Subject: [libreoffice-users] How to use LibreOffice to blur and save a
>> PNG?
>> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
>>
>>
>> I have a PNG image.  I need to edit the image to blur out some portions
>> that I don't want other people to see, and then save that modified PNG
>> image.
>>
>> Is this something that LibreOffice can do?  I tried running Draw and
>> then
>> opening the PNG.  I believe the "Smooth" operation is what I need.  I
>> can
>> see this in the "Filter" dropdown when I click on the image, but I'm
>> not
>> sure what to do with that.
>>
>> I'm guessing if I can figure out how to properly modify the image, I
>> would
>> use the "Save Image ..." menu item in the context menu to save the
>> modified
>> PNG.  Is this correct?
>>
>>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Sorry to nitpick here but I am not sure we want to recommend freeware (and
> not free and open source software) to our users. Many Freeware download
> sites are famous to bundle spyware in the software they distribute.
>
> I am a bit surprized to see this "techsupportalert" being mentioned several
> times by an actual moderator of this mailing list.
>
> There are a few websites listing free and open source software:
> http://www.opensourcewindows.org
> http://www.opensourcemac.org
> http://www.osalt.com
>
> And many more.
>
> Best,
> Charles
>

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Re: How to use LibreOffice to blur and save a PNG?

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       Here is another example of how helpful Gizmo's is;
           Gimp is recommended yet is stated as being excessive for many
basic users.



From: MARK ARTMAN <[hidden email]>
Date: Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 9:32 AM
Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] How to use LibreOffice to blur and save a
PNG?
To: anne-ology <[hidden email]>, Charles <
[hidden email]>
Cc: [hidden email]


 I highly recommend gimp. I use it often as it does a great job with stuff
like that.

-Mark


 ------------------------------
From: anne-ology <[hidden email]>
Sent: ‎7/‎13/‎2015 8:58 AM
To: Charles <[hidden email]>
Cc: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to use LibreOffice to blur and save a
PNG?

        That is *not* a 'freeware' site;
           anyone who has gone there would know this.

       If you enjoy LO, then you should also enjoy their dedicated efforts.



From: Charles-H. Schulz <[hidden email]>
Date: Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 2:29 AM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to use LibreOffice to blur and save a
PNG?
To: anne-ology <[hidden email]>, [hidden email]



Le 11 juillet 2015 02:07:42 GMT+02:00, anne-ology <[hidden email]> a
écrit :

>       LO is not designed to do that;
>          but there are numerous programs which will do a very good job
>for you -
>         many of these are even free for the individual user and can be
>located
>            http://www.techsupportalert.com/
>
>
>
>From: KARR, DAVID <[hidden email]>
>Date: Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 12:20 PM
>Subject: [libreoffice-users] How to use LibreOffice to blur and save a
>PNG?
>To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
>
>
>I have a PNG image.  I need to edit the image to blur out some portions
>that I don't want other people to see, and then save that modified PNG
>image.
>
>Is this something that LibreOffice can do?  I tried running Draw and
>then
>opening the PNG.  I believe the "Smooth" operation is what I need.  I
>can
>see this in the "Filter" dropdown when I click on the image, but I'm
>not
>sure what to do with that.
>
>I'm guessing if I can figure out how to properly modify the image, I
>would
>use the "Save Image ..." menu item in the context menu to save the
>modified
>PNG.  Is this correct?
>



Hi,

Sorry to nitpick here but I am not sure we want to recommend freeware (and
not free and open source software) to our users. Many Freeware download
sites are famous to bundle spyware in the software they distribute.

I am a bit surprized to see this "techsupportalert" being mentioned several
times by an actual moderator of this mailing list.

There are a few websites listing free and open source software:
http://www.opensourcewindows.org
http://www.opensourcemac.org
http://www.osalt.com

And many more.

Best,
Charles

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Re: How to use LibreOffice to blur and save a PNG?

In reply to this post by anne-ology
I'm very sorry Anne, but going there prompts me to lists of software by
categories; only a fraction of these are actual Free Software (and I
have to look for them).
So unless I live on a parallel internet anyone can go there and see by
him/herself: it's mostly freeware and donationware. In fact you
mentioned yourself the following software: C-Cleaner, Avast, IrfanView ;
and then VLC. Do you make any difference between these?

Sites like Tucows, CnetDownload do offer LibreOffice download; that does
not mean it's acceptable either. Again I'm sorry to nitpick: all I'm
saying is that it is not good practice. I realize you may have
discovered LibreOffice through that site, but it's still a download site
with freeware.

Best,

Charles.


Le 13.07.2015 17:53, anne-ology a écrit :

> That is so *un*true.
>
>        If you were to actually go there, you would know they recommend
> LO -
>             (in fact, that's how I learned of LO)
>
>        If you were to actually go there, you would know they are so
> opposed
> to the freeware/adware software
>           and only recommend 'clean' software, that are made and
> handled by
> reputable companies and/or individuals.
>
>        They do not cater to WINdows; in fact, they often recommend
> others;
>           (they started to get away from the MSFT built-in software)
>
>        They are strictly volunteer based; therefore no one has undue
> influence;
>           check out their various blogs on whatever program/topic to
> see
> how the various discussions flow ...
>          or the various articles pertaining to any software category
> where
> not one, but several programs are rated with pros & cons.
>
>        They do not recommend 'freeware' or donation-ware -
>            although some of the individuals making software do state
> they
> would appreciate a donation of any amount at any time;
>          you should notice, that LO also is in this category.
>
>        I was not - nor have I, been advertising this;
>            but when I think that someone would be interested in a
> program(s), which I thoroughly enjoy using -
>           I think they would be interested in knowing where I located
> it/them.
>
>        For example, C-Cleaner, Avast, IrfanView, VLC, ...
>            are in this category - and these are all rated at the top of
> their respective categories.
>
>
>
> From: Charles-H. Schulz <[hidden email]>
> Date: Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 9:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to use LibreOffice to blur and
> save a
> PNG?
> To: [hidden email]
> Cc: Florian Effenberger <[hidden email]>
>
>
> Sorry Anne, but I'm going to have to disagree. It is not because I want
> to
> be unpleasant or anything, but as a moderator of this list you should
> perhaps know better than sending users to this kind of site.
>
> Anyone going to the site you mention will be presented with a list of
> software (mostly for Windows, others available as SaaS). As far as I
> can
> tell *none of them* are Free and Open Source Software. Clicking on each
> link will point to software that is actual freeware or donationware:
> - none of them has a Free/Open Source Software licence
> - none of them has an open development model
>
> Surely you do make the difference between a software like LibreOffice
> and
> software listed on the site? Again, I do not point this out to sound
> unpleasant or unfriendly, but it is not wise to advertise this kind of
> software on a users mailing list of a Free and Open Source Software.
>
> I hope you'll understand what the issue is.
>
> Best,
> Charles.
>
>
>
> Le 13.07.2015 15:57, anne-ology a écrit :
>
>  That is *not* a 'freeware' site;
>>
>>            anyone who has gone there would know this.
>>
>>        If you enjoy LO, then you should also enjoy their dedicated
>> efforts.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Charles-H. Schulz <[hidden email]>
>> Date: Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 2:29 AM
>> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to use LibreOffice to blur and
>> save a
>> PNG?
>> To: anne-ology <[hidden email]>, [hidden email]
>>
>>
>> Le 11 juillet 2015 02:07:42 GMT+02:00, anne-ology <[hidden email]>
>> a
>> écrit :
>>
>>        LO is not designed to do that;
>>>          but there are numerous programs which will do a very good
>>> job
>>> for you -
>>>         many of these are even free for the individual user and can
>>> be
>>> located
>>>            http://www.techsupportalert.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: KARR, DAVID <[hidden email]>
>>> Date: Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 12:20 PM
>>> Subject: [libreoffice-users] How to use LibreOffice to blur and save
>>> a
>>> PNG?
>>> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have a PNG image.  I need to edit the image to blur out some
>>> portions
>>> that I don't want other people to see, and then save that modified
>>> PNG
>>> image.
>>>
>>> Is this something that LibreOffice can do?  I tried running Draw and
>>> then
>>> opening the PNG.  I believe the "Smooth" operation is what I need.  I
>>> can
>>> see this in the "Filter" dropdown when I click on the image, but I'm
>>> not
>>> sure what to do with that.
>>>
>>> I'm guessing if I can figure out how to properly modify the image, I
>>> would
>>> use the "Save Image ..." menu item in the context menu to save the
>>> modified
>>> PNG.  Is this correct?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Sorry to nitpick here but I am not sure we want to recommend freeware
>> (and
>> not free and open source software) to our users. Many Freeware
>> download
>> sites are famous to bundle spyware in the software they distribute.
>>
>> I am a bit surprized to see this "techsupportalert" being mentioned
>> several
>> times by an actual moderator of this mailing list.
>>
>> There are a few websites listing free and open source software:
>> http://www.opensourcewindows.org
>> http://www.opensourcemac.org
>> http://www.osalt.com
>>
>> And many more.
>>
>> Best,
>> Charles
>>


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       Obviously you're not going to the Gizmo's site.

       Those 4 programs as well as LO are similar, yes.

       Tucows, Cnet, ... are not the same as Gizmo's - those sites do not
cater to the user who wishes to avoid MsFt yet use quality software;
           in fact, I think those sites are attempting to make a profit.



From: Charles-H. Schulz <[hidden email]>
Date: Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to use LibreOffice to blur and save a
PNG?
To: [hidden email]
Cc: Florian Effenberger <[hidden email]>


I'm very sorry Anne, but going there prompts me to lists of software by
categories; only a fraction of these are actual Free Software (and I have
to look for them).
So unless I live on a parallel internet anyone can go there and see by
him/herself: it's mostly freeware and donationware. In fact you mentioned
yourself the following software: C-Cleaner, Avast, IrfanView ; and then
VLC. Do you make any difference between these?

Sites like Tucows, CnetDownload do offer LibreOffice download; that does
not mean it's acceptable either. Again I'm sorry to nitpick: all I'm saying
is that it is not good practice. I realize you may have discovered
LibreOffice through that site, but it's still a download site with freeware.

Best,
Charles.



Le 13.07.2015 17:53, anne-ology a écrit :

> That is so *un*true.
>
>
>        If you were to actually go there, you would know they recommend LO -
>             (in fact, that's how I learned of LO)
>
>        If you were to actually go there, you would know they are so opposed
> to the freeware/adware software
>           and only recommend 'clean' software, that are made and handled by
> reputable companies and/or individuals.
>
>        They do not cater to WINdows; in fact, they often recommend others;
>           (they started to get away from the MSFT built-in software)
>
>        They are strictly volunteer based; therefore no one has undue
> influence;
>           check out their various blogs on whatever program/topic to see
> how the various discussions flow ...
>          or the various articles pertaining to any software category where
> not one, but several programs are rated with pros & cons.
>
>        They do not recommend 'freeware' or donation-ware -
>            although some of the individuals making software do state they
> would appreciate a donation of any amount at any time;
>          you should notice, that LO also is in this category.
>
>        I was not - nor have I, been advertising this;
>            but when I think that someone would be interested in a
> program(s), which I thoroughly enjoy using -
>           I think they would be interested in knowing where I located
> it/them.
>
>        For example, C-Cleaner, Avast, IrfanView, VLC, ...
>            are in this category - and these are all rated at the top of
> their respective categories.
>
>
>
> From: Charles-H. Schulz <[hidden email]>
> Date: Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 9:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to use LibreOffice to blur and save a
> PNG?
> To: [hidden email]
> Cc: Florian Effenberger <[hidden email]>
>
>
> Sorry Anne, but I'm going to have to disagree. It is not because I want to
> be unpleasant or anything, but as a moderator of this list you should
> perhaps know better than sending users to this kind of site.
>
> Anyone going to the site you mention will be presented with a list of
> software (mostly for Windows, others available as SaaS). As far as I can
> tell *none of them* are Free and Open Source Software. Clicking on each
> link will point to software that is actual freeware or donationware:
> - none of them has a Free/Open Source Software licence
> - none of them has an open development model
>
> Surely you do make the difference between a software like LibreOffice and
> software listed on the site? Again, I do not point this out to sound
> unpleasant or unfriendly, but it is not wise to advertise this kind of
> software on a users mailing list of a Free and Open Source Software.
>
> I hope you'll understand what the issue is.
>
> Best,
> Charles.
>
>
>
> Le 13.07.2015 15:57, anne-ology a écrit :
>
>  That is *not* a 'freeware' site;
>
>>
>>            anyone who has gone there would know this.
>>
>>        If you enjoy LO, then you should also enjoy their dedicated
>> efforts.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Charles-H. Schulz <[hidden email]>
>> Date: Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 2:29 AM
>> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to use LibreOffice to blur and save a
>> PNG?
>> To: anne-ology <[hidden email]>, [hidden email]
>>
>>
>> Le 11 juillet 2015 02:07:42 GMT+02:00, anne-ology <[hidden email]> a
>> écrit :
>>
>>        LO is not designed to do that;
>>
>>>          but there are numerous programs which will do a very good job
>>> for you -
>>>         many of these are even free for the individual user and can be
>>> located
>>>            http://www.techsupportalert.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: KARR, DAVID <[hidden email]>
>>> Date: Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 12:20 PM
>>> Subject: [libreoffice-users] How to use LibreOffice to blur and save a
>>> PNG?
>>> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have a PNG image.  I need to edit the image to blur out some portions
>>> that I don't want other people to see, and then save that modified PNG
>>> image.
>>>
>>> Is this something that LibreOffice can do?  I tried running Draw and
>>> then
>>> opening the PNG.  I believe the "Smooth" operation is what I need.  I
>>> can
>>> see this in the "Filter" dropdown when I click on the image, but I'm
>>> not
>>> sure what to do with that.
>>>
>>> I'm guessing if I can figure out how to properly modify the image, I
>>> would
>>> use the "Save Image ..." menu item in the context menu to save the
>>> modified
>>> PNG.  Is this correct?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Sorry to nitpick here but I am not sure we want to recommend freeware (and
>> not free and open source software) to our users. Many Freeware download
>> sites are famous to bundle spyware in the software they distribute.
>>
>> I am a bit surprized to see this "techsupportalert" being mentioned
>> several
>> times by an actual moderator of this mailing list.
>>
>> There are a few websites listing free and open source software:
>> http://www.opensourcewindows.org
>> http://www.opensourcemac.org
>> http://www.osalt.com
>>
>> And many more.
>>
>> Best,
>> Charles
>>
>>

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Re: How to use LibreOffice to blur and save a PNG?

Le 13 juillet 2015 18:17:34 GMT+02:00, anne-ology <[hidden email]> a écrit :

>       Obviously you're not going to the Gizmo's site.
>
>       Those 4 programs as well as LO are similar, yes.
>
>     Tucows, Cnet, ... are not the same as Gizmo's - those sites do not
>cater to the user who wishes to avoid MsFt yet use quality software;
>          in fact, I think those sites are attempting to make a profit.
>
>
>
>From: Charles-H. Schulz <[hidden email]>
>Date: Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 11:05 AM
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to use LibreOffice to blur and
>save a
>PNG?
>To: [hidden email]
>Cc: Florian Effenberger <[hidden email]>
>
>
>I'm very sorry Anne, but going there prompts me to lists of software by
>categories; only a fraction of these are actual Free Software (and I
>have
>to look for them).
>So unless I live on a parallel internet anyone can go there and see by
>him/herself: it's mostly freeware and donationware. In fact you
>mentioned
>yourself the following software: C-Cleaner, Avast, IrfanView ; and then
>VLC. Do you make any difference between these?
>
>Sites like Tucows, CnetDownload do offer LibreOffice download; that
>does
>not mean it's acceptable either. Again I'm sorry to nitpick: all I'm
>saying
>is that it is not good practice. I realize you may have discovered
>LibreOffice through that site, but it's still a download site with
>freeware.
>
>Best,
>Charles.
>
>
>
>Le 13.07.2015 17:53, anne-ology a écrit :
>
>> That is so *un*true.
>>
>>
>>        If you were to actually go there, you would know they
>recommend LO -
>>             (in fact, that's how I learned of LO)
>>
>>        If you were to actually go there, you would know they are so
>opposed
>> to the freeware/adware software
>>           and only recommend 'clean' software, that are made and
>handled by
>> reputable companies and/or individuals.
>>
>>        They do not cater to WINdows; in fact, they often recommend
>others;
>>           (they started to get away from the MSFT built-in software)
>>
>>        They are strictly volunteer based; therefore no one has undue
>> influence;
>>           check out their various blogs on whatever program/topic to
>see
>> how the various discussions flow ...
>>          or the various articles pertaining to any software category
>where
>> not one, but several programs are rated with pros & cons.
>>
>>        They do not recommend 'freeware' or donation-ware -
>>            although some of the individuals making software do state
>they
>> would appreciate a donation of any amount at any time;
>>          you should notice, that LO also is in this category.
>>
>>        I was not - nor have I, been advertising this;
>>            but when I think that someone would be interested in a
>> program(s), which I thoroughly enjoy using -
>>           I think they would be interested in knowing where I located
>> it/them.
>>
>>        For example, C-Cleaner, Avast, IrfanView, VLC, ...
>>            are in this category - and these are all rated at the top
>of
>> their respective categories.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Charles-H. Schulz <[hidden email]>
>> Date: Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 9:27 AM
>> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to use LibreOffice to blur and
>save a
>> PNG?
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Cc: Florian Effenberger <[hidden email]>
>>
>>
>> Sorry Anne, but I'm going to have to disagree. It is not because I
>want to
>> be unpleasant or anything, but as a moderator of this list you should
>> perhaps know better than sending users to this kind of site.
>>
>> Anyone going to the site you mention will be presented with a list of
>> software (mostly for Windows, others available as SaaS). As far as I
>can
>> tell *none of them* are Free and Open Source Software. Clicking on
>each
>> link will point to software that is actual freeware or donationware:
>> - none of them has a Free/Open Source Software licence
>> - none of them has an open development model
>>
>> Surely you do make the difference between a software like LibreOffice
>and
>> software listed on the site? Again, I do not point this out to sound
>> unpleasant or unfriendly, but it is not wise to advertise this kind
>of
>> software on a users mailing list of a Free and Open Source Software.
>>
>> I hope you'll understand what the issue is.
>>
>> Best,
>> Charles.
>>
>>
>>
>> Le 13.07.2015 15:57, anne-ology a écrit :
>>
>>  That is *not* a 'freeware' site;
>>
>>>
>>>            anyone who has gone there would know this.
>>>
>>>        If you enjoy LO, then you should also enjoy their dedicated
>>> efforts.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Charles-H. Schulz <[hidden email]>
>>> Date: Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 2:29 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to use LibreOffice to blur and
>save a
>>> PNG?
>>> To: anne-ology <[hidden email]>, [hidden email]
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 11 juillet 2015 02:07:42 GMT+02:00, anne-ology
><[hidden email]> a
>>> écrit :
>>>
>>>        LO is not designed to do that;
>>>
>>>>          but there are numerous programs which will do a very good
>job
>>>> for you -
>>>>         many of these are even free for the individual user and can
>be
>>>> located
>>>>            http://www.techsupportalert.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: KARR, DAVID <[hidden email]>
>>>> Date: Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 12:20 PM
>>>> Subject: [libreoffice-users] How to use LibreOffice to blur and
>save a
>>>> PNG?
>>>> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have a PNG image.  I need to edit the image to blur out some
>portions
>>>> that I don't want other people to see, and then save that modified
>PNG
>>>> image.
>>>>
>>>> Is this something that LibreOffice can do?  I tried running Draw
>and
>>>> then
>>>> opening the PNG.  I believe the "Smooth" operation is what I need.
>I
>>>> can
>>>> see this in the "Filter" dropdown when I click on the image, but
>I'm
>>>> not
>>>> sure what to do with that.
>>>>
>>>> I'm guessing if I can figure out how to properly modify the image,
>I
>>>> would
>>>> use the "Save Image ..." menu item in the context menu to save the
>>>> modified
>>>> PNG.  Is this correct?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Sorry to nitpick here but I am not sure we want to recommend
>freeware (and
>>> not free and open source software) to our users. Many Freeware
>download
>>> sites are famous to bundle spyware in the software they distribute.
>>>
>>> I am a bit surprized to see this "techsupportalert" being mentioned
>>> several
>>> times by an actual moderator of this mailing list.
>>>
>>> There are a few websites listing free and open source software:
>>> http://www.opensourcewindows.org
>>> http://www.opensourcemac.org
>>> http://www.osalt.com
>>>
>>> And many more.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Charles
>>>
>>>
>
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Anne,

I went there and I find freeware first and foremost. I also see ads there. Now you are right about tucows and cnet: they are businesses. But the gizmo site does not really seem to be that different: only the comments and suggestions are more detailed than on the two sites we mentioned. It is not exactly clear how they differ from techsupportalert otherwise.

As for the lack of difference between the four software and LibreOffice : do you mean to say you are not familiar with free  & open source software ?

If not... waow.

Best,

Charles
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Re: {Off Topic: FOSS Solutions} How to use LibreOffice to blur ...?

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This list is intended to cover LibreOffice issues (not all FOSS).

That said, LibreOffice is not the software equivalent of a Swiss Army Knife. There really are things it is not designed to do. This photo editing request appears to fall into that "inappropriate tool for the task" category. I believe it is very proper to suggest alternatives in such a case.

I do agree that FOSS ought to be included in such recommendations whenever possible but each possible solution should be made to stand on its own feet recognizing that not all FOSS is created equal and that sometimes even proprietary software for a fee is best for a particular task.

Ideally every recommendation will be identified as FOSS, freeware, adware, trialware, proprietaryware for a fee, etc. Then the person who seeks help has more information upon which to base a decision.

Zeal for FOSS can get out of hand.

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From: anne-ology <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 9:18
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to use LibreOffice to blur and save a PNG?

       Obviously you're not going to the Gizmo's site.

       Those 4 programs as well as LO are similar, yes.

       Tucows, Cnet, ... are not the same as Gizmo's - those sites do not
cater to the user who wishes to avoid MsFt yet use quality software;
           in fact, I think those sites are attempting to make a profit.



From: Charles-H. Schulz <[hidden email]>
Date: Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to use LibreOffice to blur and save a
PNG?
To: [hidden email]
Cc: Florian Effenberger <[hidden email]>


I'm very sorry Anne, but going there prompts me to lists of software by
categories; only a fraction of these are actual Free Software (and I have
to look for them).

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Re: {Off Topic: FOSS Solutions} How to use LibreOffice to blur ...?

       Thank you.



From: James E Lang <[hidden email]>
Date: Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] {Off Topic: FOSS Solutions} How to use
LibreOffice to blur ...?
To: [hidden email], anne-ology <[hidden email]>


This list is intended to cover LibreOffice issues (not all FOSS).

That said, LibreOffice is not the software equivalent of a Swiss Army
Knife. There really are things it is not designed to do. This photo editing
request appears to fall into that "inappropriate tool for the task"
category. I believe it is very proper to suggest alternatives in such a
case.

I do agree that FOSS ought to be included in such recommendations whenever
possible but each possible solution should be made to stand on its own feet
recognizing that not all FOSS is created equal and that *sometimes* even
proprietary software for a fee is best for a particular task.

Ideally every recommendation will be identified as FOSS, freeware, adware,
trialware, proprietaryware for a fee, etc. Then the person who seeks help
has more information upon which to base a decision.

Zeal for FOSS can get out of hand.


Jim



From: anne-ology <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 9:18
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to use LibreOffice to blur and save a
PNG?

       Obviously you're not going to the Gizmo's site.

       Those 4 programs as well as LO are similar, yes.

       Tucows, Cnet, ... are not the same as Gizmo's - those sites do not
cater to the user who wishes to avoid MsFt yet use quality software;
           in fact, I think those sites are attempting to make a profit.



From: Charles-H. Schulz <[hidden email]>
Date: Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to use LibreOffice to blur and save a
PNG?
To: [hidden email]
Cc: Florian Effenberger <[hidden email]>


I'm very sorry Anne, but going there prompts me to lists of software by
categories; only a fraction of these are actual Free Software (and I have
to look for them).

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Re: How to use LibreOffice to blur and save a PNG?

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On 07/13/2015 03:53 PM, anne-ology wrote:
>        That is so *un*true.

From their "About" page
«Our primary function is to help you select the best freeware product
for your particular needs.»

>If you were to actually go there, you would know they are so opposed
to the freeware/adware software


I just looked at their Android recommendations, and whilst they didn't
recommend the worst offenders in the adware space, their recommendations
did include adware whose primary purpose is to infect Android devices.

Their recommendations for Windows weren't much more reassuring.  (I
realize that msot Windows and Android users have a pathological
objection to running anything that might be misconstrued as safe, sound
secure software, preferring to live a world where their software and
hardware is pawned before being turned on.)

If you really want to encourage the use of a curated collection of
Windows software, then go with the _TTTCS OSSWIN DVD_
(http://www.ttcsweb.org/osswin-dvd/#cdlist). Whilst it no longer is
exclusively Free Libre Open Source Software, it is a clean,
comprehensive collection of software for the typical consumer desktop.

jonathon

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