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Hello,

I just upgraded from LibreOffice 3.4 (I know, a bit late, but I am
conservative). LibreOffice 3.4 always was a reliable choice both for
writing books and other documents. However, it also sometimes
crashed.... But less often than MS...

Since years I am editing a small 8 page magazine written in two or three
columns and using pictures hooked up on the pages (not on the
paragraphs). In LibreOffice 3.4 I had to take care of occasional crashes
when handling the frames and pictures, but it worked.

Now, in the latest release 4.1.? (downloaded yesterday), its getting a
nightmare. No chance to finish the document. Permanent crashes. I only
can tell that it has to do with the frames.

Where can I download the latest 3.x version? I need to complete my work.

Best regards
Christoph Mueller.
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On 16 October 2013 21:26, Christoph Mueller
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I just upgraded from LibreOffice 3.4 (I know, a bit late, but I am
> conservative). LibreOffice 3.4 always was a reliable choice both for
> writing books and other documents. However, it also sometimes
> crashed.... But less often than MS...
>
> Since years I am editing a small 8 page magazine written in two or three
> columns and using pictures hooked up on the pages (not on the
> paragraphs). In LibreOffice 3.4 I had to take care of occasional crashes
> when handling the frames and pictures, but it worked.
>
> Now, in the latest release 4.1.? (downloaded yesterday), its getting a
> nightmare. No chance to finish the document. Permanent crashes. I only
> can tell that it has to do with the frames.
>
> Where can I download the latest 3.x version? I need to complete my work.
>
> Best regards
> Christoph Mueller.
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On 10/16/2013 03:26 PM, Christoph Mueller wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I just upgraded from LibreOffice 3.4 (I know, a bit late, but I am
> conservative). LibreOffice 3.4 always was a reliable choice both for
> writing books and other documents. However, it also sometimes
> crashed.... But less often than MS...
>
> Since years I am editing a small 8 page magazine written in two or three
> columns and using pictures hooked up on the pages (not on the
> paragraphs). In LibreOffice 3.4 I had to take care of occasional crashes
> when handling the frames and pictures, but it worked.
>
> Now, in the latest release 4.1.? (downloaded yesterday), its getting a
> nightmare. No chance to finish the document. Permanent crashes. I only
> can tell that it has to do with the frames.
>
> Where can I download the latest 3.x version? I need to complete my work.
>
> Best regards
> Christoph Mueller.

http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/

This is the link to the archive showing all of the older versions.  You
can choose from that list.

Personally, I use the 4.0.5 version of LibreOffice.  It is the "most
stable" of the versions, until all of the "bugs" are worked out with the
new 4.1.x line.

In the Release Plan page
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan

This image shows that the 4.1.x line is still for "Early Adopters".
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibOReleaseLifecycle.png

And the 4.0.5 version is "recommended" for users.

Since you need to have a "stable" version for editing and maintaining a
publication, I would stick to 4.0.5 and then 4.0.6 when it comes out.
When 4.1.x goes to 4.0.4, then it should be ready for most users.

I make a lot of documents, posters, cards, and other "stuff" for several
organizations.  I have over 600 fonts installed on my main "working"
desktop.  I run 4.0.5 on a Ubuntu/Linux system.  I do use a Windows
laptop to test out the newest versions of the 4.1.x line, but it is not
completely ready for one of my needs.  Hopefully the issue if fixed by
4.1.4.


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On 16/10/2013, Christoph Mueller <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I just upgraded from LibreOffice 3.4 (I know, a bit late, but I am
> conservative). LibreOffice 3.4 always was a reliable choice both for
> writing books and other documents. However, it also sometimes
> crashed.... But less often than MS...
>

:) , as a user of LO33 who values stability more than "latest features"

>
> Now, in the latest release 4.1.? (downloaded yesterday), its getting a
> nightmare. No chance to finish the document. Permanent crashes. I only
> can tell that it has to do with the frames.
>

A suggestion: please create a test document and send to the LO QA
department, to propose inclusion as a test document.

More test cases should improve stability by preventing poor quality
software version releases.

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Hi :) 
Age is not the factor that makes a release more stable, except that it does mean you probably know all the problems you are likely to encounter and probably have work-arounds for them. 

The indicator that shows a release is likely to be stable is the 3rd digit.  So
4.1.2 is likely to be less stable than
4.0.5

The trade-off is that the 4.1.x probably has a lot more features and better compatibility with whichever version of MS Office people are currently using. 

As more people move to MSO 2013 we will find that those people have problems with documents from earlier versions of MSO as well as with documents from LibreOffice/OpenOffice and all the rest.  Those of us that haven't upgraded to MSO 2013 or 365 will find we converge and find it easier to share documents with each other. 

Regards from
Tom :) 






On Friday, 18 October 2013, 13:13, e-letter <[hidden email]> wrote:
 
On 16/10/2013, Christoph Mueller <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I just upgraded from LibreOffice 3.4 (I know, a bit late, but I am
> conservative). LibreOffice 3.4 always was a reliable choice both for
> writing books and other documents. However, it also sometimes
> crashed.... But less often than MS...
>

:) , as a user of LO33 who values stability more than "latest features"

>
> Now, in the latest release 4.1.? (downloaded yesterday), its getting a
> nightmare. No chance to finish the document. Permanent crashes. I only
> can tell that it has to do with the frames.
>

A suggestion: please create a test document and send to the LO QA
department, to propose inclusion as a test document.

More test cases should improve stability by preventing poor quality
software version releases.

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Séamas Ó Brógáin Séamas Ó Brógáin
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Libre Office 4.1: Some initial responses

Libre Office 4.1.2.3 (downloaded with Ubuntu 13.10 on 17 October):

[1] Kerning (Format > Character > Position > Spacing > Pair kerning)
cannot be switched off (or rather it can be switched off but this has
no effect).

[2] Combining character sequences (an ordinary letter followed by one
of the diacritical marks in the 0300 range) display correctly but are
garbled on printing (including printing to Postscript and exporting as
PDF).

Significant problem still not corrected:

[3] Hyphen (normal keyboard hyphen) does not break words at the end of
a line.

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