[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call [2016-02-04]

classic Classic list List threaded Threaded
2 messages Options
Jan Holesovsky-4 Jan Holesovsky-4
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call [2016-02-04]

* Present:
    + Jan-Marek, Kendy, Norbert, Sophie, Christian, Robinson, Bjoern, Eike, Miklos, Andras,
      JanI, Caolán, Muthu, Michael S, Olivier
 
* Finished Action Items:
    + mail to ask new certificees for approval (Stephan)
    + add gerrit stats & old/stale commit links to ESC agenda (JanI)
 
* Pending Action Items:
    + chase impress mode-switching patch - make the button more prominent (Cloph)
        [ did not get to that yet, will mention in release notes ]
    + Update/fix: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas (All)
    + double-check duplicate libmar/src, update/src (Kendy)
    + add more repos from gerrit/github to gitdm-config scripts (e.g. for Document Liberation repos) (Thorsten)
         [ there was a mail from Thorsten, probably done ]
    + add stuff to Release Notes and Under The Hood (everyone)
 
* Release Engineering update (Christian)
    + 5.0.5 RC2 update
        + will be done after the call; couldn't do earlier due to traveling
    + 5.0.6 will be the last 5.0 release - RC1 due ?
        + this will be the last one
        + April 12th rc1
    + 5.1.0 release update
        + to be announced the next week
    + 5.1.1 RC1 due ?
        + next week, February 9th
        + Late Features:
            + New Slide Transitions: polish
            + UserAgent display & tweakage
            + URL for the online documentation needs change (Bjoern)
            + impress mode switching (Kendy)
    + Android & iOS Remote
        + build breakage updated; Android builds ready
            + up-loaded soon.
        + iOS remote needs re-releasing with new certificate
            + due later this week.
        + probably new Android release soon due to the nice new storage support
    + Release Notes: are they complete:
        + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/5.1
        => please do fill that out ... check commit logs.
        + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UnderTheHood/5.1
            + help also appreciated.
 
* Documentation (Olivier)
    + new helppages
    + wrote some notes on the project - local help related
        + would like to have the dedicated app exchanged with opening in
          the browser (even the local help)
        + would be good to add videos etc.
        https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Help_Content_Modernization
    + needs some JS hacking (Kendy)
    + would like to do that as GSoC (Olivier)
AI      + add it to the ideas page (Kendy)
        + willing to co-mentor, if you find a good student (Kendy)
    + how do you want to bundle the videos? (Jan-Marek)
        + we can discuss the size of the package (Olivier)
        + heaviest can be online, small on locally; currently
          only a brain-storm (Olivier)
        + I just don't want to rely completely on online help (Jan-Marek)
        + blocking on the JS / indexing application, content can
          be decided later (Kendy)
    + large overlap with the wikihelp project (Miklos). May replace wikihelp completely (olivier)
 
* GSoC 2016 (Thorsten, JanI)
    + Urgent: please update & fix before Feb 8th:
        + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas
    + 3 admin volunteers: JanIV, Moggi, Thorsten
    + application to be submitted in up to a week (JanI)
 
* UX Update (Kendy)
    + GSoC tasks - for the things that we designed in the last year
    + will have a survey about Draw
    + ~5 UI changes from non-committers pending, UX team should review (JanI)
        + ATM assigned to Kendy
 
* Reviewing larger mail merge patchsets (Jan-Marek)
    + two branches with larger mail merge changes
        + private/jmux/mm-cleanup (~25 patches)
            - mainly refactors MM itself
        + feature/mailmerge-toolbar from Kendy (~30 patches)
            - minimal changes to the mail merge code, but new UI
    + How are these normally merged?
    + Somebody wants / can do a review?
    + normally rebase + push to master (Kendy)
        + no need for an additional review (Miklos)
        + make sure though that the 'make check' with dbgutil enabled passes
        + test branch with: ./logerrit testfeature <branch> (Bjoern)
 
* Crashtest update (Caolan)
    + 0 import failures, 1 export failures, 100 (+4/-30) coverity
    + how much coverity is Java? (Bjoern)
        + 99 (Caolan)
 
* Japanese event summary (?)
    + 9th January in Osaka https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/LibOCon_mini_JP
    + 10th January, hackfest http://libojapan.connpass.com/event/24081/
    + Kohei's blog / slides
      http://kohei.us/2016/01/26/libreoffice-mini-conference-2016-in-osaka/
 
* FOSDEM Hackfest / Event update
    + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/FOSDEM2016
    + hackfest was great, mentored a new contributor (Miklos)
    + FOSDEM itself - booth much better located this year, many visitors (Miklos)
    + devroom great too (Miklos)
        + lots of non-LibreOffice people there too (Kendy)
    + 2015 videos: https://video.fosdem.org/2015/devroom-open_document_editors/
        + audio low for some (Bjoern)
    + 2016 videos: https://video.fosdem.org/2016/k4401/
        + no content yet though, fear that some of the talks were not recorded (Bjoern)
        + we need to check the stream the next time (Bjoern)
        + some general loss of data from all rooms too, unfortunately (Cloph)
 
* Hackfests (Bjoern)
    + next venues / suggestions
        + Gran Canaria hack-fest (Thorsten)
            + April 6-8th (7-9th) possibly
                Plan is to craft it according to the Japanese Mini-Conference, with a broader local community appeal
                https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/LibreOffice_Espania_Summit
        + Turkey
            + talked to them; lots of enthusiasm & desire for training.
                + mid-March hack-fest expected.
            + concrete dates ?
            + concrete volunteer mentors?
                + Jan-Marek maybe
        + Germany, Munich, LiMux; End of May 2016 (Jan-Marek)
            + Orga: https://wiki.debian.org/BSP/2016/05/de/Munich
            + Weekend doodle: https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.de/LiMux_Hackfest_May_2016/
                + 19-21 or 27-29
                + smaller amount of space available this year (Jan-Marek)
                + maybe some general community event around that? (Bjoern)
                   + it is a general event, not LO specific (Jan-Marek)
        + Italy?
 
* Mentoring Update (JanI)
    + GSoC candidates seems to need more help than ever
    + unofficial camp in turkey, blog post maae, added many patches, but still
      require mentoring bandwidth
        + hackfest will hopefully help (Bjoern)
    + working with infra
        + knowledge transfer from Cloph - to back him up when he goes for vacation (JanI)
    + Reduced more coverity issues
        + ~90% false positives these days (JanI)
    + Preparing a bigger rewrite of developer wiki, to answer typical beginner
      questions and still having "advanced" themes
        + should sent to the mailing list? (JanI)
        + go for that (Bjoern, Kendy)
    + Gerrit patches: 75 open from non-committers all commented. 147 open in total.
        + dramatic raise in non-committers, sadly 2/3 has a -1 currently
 
* l10n Update (Sophie)
    + nothing new, all ready for 5.1, no disasters
 
* Commit Access
 
* Developer Certification (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy/Thorsten)
    + pending next cycle.
 
* Jenkins / CI update (Norbert)
    from:Thu Jan 28 15:02:08 2016
    master linux rel  jobs:200 ok:192 ko:8   fail ratio:3.99%  break:6 broken duration:3.63%
    master linux dbg  jobs:137 ok:61  ko:76  fail ratio:55.47% break:2 broken duration:48%
    master mac rel    jobs:188 ok:178 ko:10  fail ratio:5.31%  break:3 broken duration:5.6%
    master mac dbg    jobs:194 ok:183 ko:11  fail ratio:5.67%  break:4 broken duration:5.57%
    master win rel    jobs:131 ok:121 ko:10  fail ratio:7.63%  break:5 broken duration:7.72%
    master win dbg    jobs:139 ok:124 ko:15  fail ratio:10.79% break:7 broken duration:7.75%
    master win64 dbg  jobs:134 ok:120 ko:14  fail ratio:10.44% break:9 broken duration:7.08%
    lo-5.0 mac        jobs:8   ok:8   ko:0   fail ratio:0%     break:0 broken duration:0%
    gerrit win rel    jobs:374 ok:297 ko:74  fail ratio:19.78%
    gerrit lin rel    jobs:378 ok:319 ko:55  fail ratio:14.55%
    gerrit mac rel    jobs:379 ok:251 ko:128 fail ratio:33.77%
    gerrit all        jobs:374 ok:211 ko:155 fail ratio:41.44%
    + regular week, Linux needed make clean
 
* Easy Hacks:
    + new easy-hacks thanks to:
        + Samuel Mehrbrodt, Björn Michaelsen x 2,
          Michael Meeks x 2, Stephan Bergmann
        + http://bit.ly/1mpGhJx
    + create your own by updating Keywords to eg.
            "easyHack, difficultyBeginner, skillCpp, topicCleanup"
    + create new easy hacks from these proposed ones
      (or remove the Keyword "needsDevEval" if not feasible):
      https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=needsDevEval
 
* Easy installation of LibreOffice in Wine (Bjoern)
    + now available with 1 click
        + install Play-on-Linux, and you get it (Jan-Marek)
        + https://www.playonlinux.com/ and https://www.playonlinux.com/en/app-2726-LibreOffice_5.html
    + winedbg possible? (Jan-Marek)
        + it used to work for me few years back, but recommend MSVC debugger for
          a real Windows debugging (Kendy)
 
* QA update (Robinson)
    + UNCONFIRMED:  647
        + enhancements:  62
        + in ux-advise:  33
    + needAdvice at  22
 
    + Most Pressing Bugs:
        http://ur1.ca/nkp0t
        + tdf#97437 - PIVOTTABLE CRASH after creating the pivot table
            + Patch in place
        + tdf#97033 - EDITING - Malformed ODB file crashes when editing tables, queries, forms in master dbgutil
            + regression
        + tdf#95709 - [DISPLAY] Presentation mode renders graphics wrong
            + Armin ?
        + tdf#96172 - Crash in layout SwSectionFrame after opening particular document
            + [was: Crash on opening DOCX]
            + bibisected;
        + tdf#89034 - OS X: Text not being justified in Persian and other RTL languages
            + Common issue -> lots of duplicates
        + Mail merge regressions (Bjoern)
            + http://bit.ly/1POJrmp (7 open; 7 open last meeting)
            + (Still?) PENDING: AI: push the last MM fix to 5.0 too
               + Jan-Marek watching this, but short on time currently
            + maybe to do test build, and find interest in testing? (Bjoern)
               + no infra for that though (Bjoern)
               + pushing to master is fine (Kendy)
        + tdf#96847 - Android viewer crashes on every file (android 4.4.4 & 5.x?)
            + Crash.
 
* QA stats
 
  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
    +130    -111        (+19 overall)
    many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        raal                  11
        Maxim Monastirsky      8
        Beluga                 8
        Samuel Mehrbrodt       7
        Caolán McNamara        7
        Xisco Faulí            6
        Cor Nouws              5
        Adolfo Jayme           4
        V Stuart Foote         4
        Tor Lillqvist          4
        Miklos Vajna           3
        Michael Stahl          3
        Michael Meeks          3
        Kevin Suo              2
 
* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
        5.2: 2/4   - 50%    +1
        5.1: 2/24   - 8%    +0
        5.0: 9/52  - 17%    -1
        4.4: 13/75 - 17%    +0
        4.3: 6/68   - 8%    +0
        4.2: 11/134 - 8%    +0
        4.1: 4/79   - 6%    -1
        4.0: 10/81  - 12%   +0
        old: 39/248 - 15%   +1
 
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibisected'
  + 402/1247 408/1242 409/1238 406/1229 353/1140 344/1125 343/1116
    + http://tdf.io/bibibugs
 
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
        + 760(-3) bugs open of 4639(+19) total 41(+1) high prio.
 
        * ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
                  Calc - 18 (+1)
                Writer - 12 (+0)
           LibreOffice -  5 (+0)
                  Base -  2 (+0)
               Impress -  2 (+0)
            Extensions -  1 (+0)
                  Draw -  1 (+0)
                + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
 
        * ~Component   count net * all regressions
                Writer - 238 (-3)
                  Calc - 163 (-1)
               Crashes -  61 (+1)
           LibreOffice -  55 (+1)
               Impress -  51 (+0)
                    UI -  45 (+0)
               Borders -  33 (+1)
        graphics stack -  31 (+0)
                  Base -  27 (-1)
                  Draw -  27 (-2)
   filters and storage -  19 (-1)
                 BASIC -  15 (+0)
                 Chart -  14 (+0)
Printing and PDF export-  12 (+1)
        Formula Editor -   7 (+0)
            Linguistic -   5 (+0)
            Extensions -   3 (+0)
          Installation -   2 (+0)
                   sdk -   1 (+0)
             framework -   1 (+0)
                + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i

_______________________________________________
List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list
Mail address: [hidden email]
Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Bjoern Michaelsen Bjoern Michaelsen
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: Minutes of ESC call [2016-02-04]

Hi,

On Thu, Feb 04, 2016 at 08:59:16PM +0100, Jan Holesovsky wrote:
> * Hackfests (Bjoern)
>         + Turkey
>             + talked to them; lots of enthusiasm & desire for training.
>                 + mid-March hack-fest expected.
>             + concrete dates ?
>             + concrete volunteer mentors?
>                 + Jan-Marek maybe

highlighting this item for visibility: We are contemplating a Hackfest in
Turkey, but it would be good to have at least some experienced mentors to go
there.

If you are interested, please contact me on list or off list.

Best,

Bjoern
_______________________________________________
List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list
Mail address: [hidden email]
Change settings: https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/