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* Present:
    + Robinson, Jan-Marek, Sophie, Miklos, Andras, Kendy, Stephan, Eike,
      Christian, Muthu, Caolan, Michael M, Bjoern (last 5 minutes)
 
* Completed Action Items:
    + send welcome mail to Justin Luth (Miklos)
            + poke gerrit for him (Michael)
    + have a look at the CppUnit to implement 'expected failure' (Jan-Marek)
        [ Not much to do here. CPPUNIT_TEST_FAIL is already there.
          http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2015-October/070497.html
          Accounting of XFAIL and XPASS seems to be tricky with the current implementation,
          if we really want it. ]
 
* Pending Action Items:
    + please check if you're listed in the mentoring page (All)
        + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Mentors
    + UserAgent - drop bundled-languages (Michael)
    + UserAgent - produce a patch for review (Michael)
    + ask students to write their own wrap-ups to aggregate (Cedric)
    + write a nice blog entry about 1000's bibisect - including flowers (Robinson)
        [ half way done, planned today ].
    + reach-out to Beta Co-working guy to book post-FOSDEM hackfest (Bjoern)
 
* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
    + 4.4.6 - RC2 status
        + due next week.
    + 5.0.3 - RC1 status
        + tagged and released for most platforms
            + up-loaded & ready for testing.
        + found a nasty OpenGL perf. issue (Michael)
    + 5.1.0 Alpha - week after next, code freeze mid. Nov.
        + tagging for 5.1 due next week.
    + Android & iOS Remote
        + Google-play dropped the 50Mb limit for APKs.
            + expecting another update in the play store.
 
* UX Update (Kendy)
    + discussing whether to remove industrial from git repo.
      or at least the unused icons; so far leave it there.
        + perhaps used for 'Human' - unclear.
    + 'Dark' themes discussed -> hicontrast etc.
        + Tomaz came up with a high-contrastifying algorithm
          for existing themes -> will save space.
    + start-center changes
        + rename the remote-files button, stay separate.
    + would like a dedicated design / UX blog
        + Jay filing a redmine ticket ( https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/1505 ) -> no problem (Cloph)
 
* Documentation (Kendy)
    + new release of help authoring ext'n on Monday
        + again more fixes; more reliable, better help output etc.
    + still would like to have on-line editable help.
        + Jay had some idea of not editable wiki necessarily ?
        + editing on top of XHP files ?
        + if we find some volunteers - web development ?
           + LOOL in a bit ? (Michael)
               + hard part - git repo & auto-pushing (Kendy)
 
* Crashtest update (Caolán)
    + 5 import failures, 2 export failures, coverity unbuildable at the moment
    + refreshed input documents, 3 import failures are new documents
    + remaining import/export failures may be related to a recent regression
      of mine caught by sberg's ubsan build, rerunning crashtest to find out
    + more effective than fuzzing to rely on public bug reporting.
    + coverity - C++14 / constexpr stuff causing grief ?
        + poking the guys over there.
 
* File format fuzzing to drive UX testing (Caolan)
    + some awesome intelligent fuzzers, work through code branches
    + re-purposing file-filters to drive UI input; 10x key strokes already.
    + working prototype already.
    + can iterate through 1x second; its learned how to open dialogs, open menu-bar etc.
    + first let it put keystrokes in, found it could enter large numbers.
    + need to be able to reset it to the start to make it faster
    + some sandboxing work would be good.
    + working on optimizing it.
 
* Hackfests (Bjoern)
    + Hamburg, Germany: Oct 23rd -> 25th (Bubli)
        + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Hamburg2015
            + would be great to see everyone there.
            + Hamburg Hackers, I'm looking at you, please register! ;)
                + couchsurfing etc.
            + working to encourage Aarhus folks to Hamburg; evening before.
    + FOSDEM / Beta Co-working
    + next venues / suggestions
        + Belgium another candidate ...
        + perhaps again at Las Palmas (Thorsten)
 
* l10n Update (Sophie)
    + after the workshop - some workflow clarification
    + several pootle improvements proposed.
    + Nicholas created a tool for menu-accelerator duplicate detection.
    + will create a l10n channel on IRC and setup monthly meetings.
 
* Developer Certification (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy/Thorsten)
    + half of committee absent today -> next week (Stephan)
    + now we have 6 names (Kendy) ]
 
* Jenkins update (Norbert)
 
* Easy Hacks:
    + new easy-hacks thanks to:
        + Straub, Jan Holesovsky, Michael Meeks
        + http://bit.ly/1KR4HWX
    + create your own by setting whiteboard to eg.
            "easyHack difficultyBeginner skillCpp topicCleanup"
    + Create new easy hacks from these proposed ones
      (or remove the whiteboard keyword "needsDevEval" if not feasible):
      https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?status_whiteboard=needsDevEval
 
* Reviewing bugs with patch flag (Bjoern)
  https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&bug_status=CLOSED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=PLEASETEST&f1=attachments.ispatch&list_id=562739&o1=equals&product=LibreOffice&query_format=advanced&resolution=---&v1=1
    + 73 open issues currently ...
       + please help out if you can.
       + looking forward to having mentoring B/W
 
* QA update (Robinson)
    + UNCONFIRMED at 482
        + slightly down.
    + needAdvice at 15
    + Most Pressing Bugs:
        http://ur1.ca/nkp0t
        + tdf#94428 - Printing adds garbage to top edge of page
            [ fixed - Michael ]
        + tdf#94809 - [Crash] SEH Exception: Access Violation when opening .docx
            + do we see it in the tests -> already reported & handled by Caolan.
        + A pair of references bugs
            + tdf#94063 - EDITING References break when putting text behind them
            + tdf#94804 - Cross references break on reload
        + tdf#91789 - UI:  Crash on exit after format header
            + will take a look (Michael)
        + tdf#94689 - Crash on new file, close file, open file  
            + Another windows crash
        + tdf#94225 - Writer crashes on undo
 
* QA stats
  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
    +214    -135        (+79 overall)
    many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        Cor Nouws             12
        Timur                 11
        Maxim Monastirsky     11
        Christian Lohmaier    10
        Adolfo Jayme           6
        raal                   6
        Beluga                 6
        tommy27                6
        Yousuf (Jay) Philips   6
        Eike Rathke            5
        Julien Nabet           4
        Michael Meeks          4
        Markus Mohrhard        4
        Miklos Vajna           3
        m.a.riosv              3
 
* Open 5.0 MAB
  + 1/12 1/12 1/12 1/12 1/12 1/12 1/12 1/12 1/12 1/12 1/12 1/12 1/12 2/12
  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=86696&hide_resolved=1
 
* Open 4.4 MAB
  + 8/59 10/60 10/60 10/60 10/60 11/60 11/60 11/60 11/60 10/60 10/60 10/60
  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=79641&hide_resolved=1
 
* Open 4.3 MAB
  + 59/168 59/168 59/168 59/168 59/168 59/168 59/168 59/168 61/168 61/168
  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=75025&hide_resolved=1
 
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibisected'
  + 322/1047 324/1039 325/1029 330/1028 344/1028 345/1020 338/1006
    + http://tdf.io/bibibugs
 
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
        + stats are for two weeks ...
        + 676(+24) bugs open of 4243(+43) total 48(+10) high prio.
 
        * ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
                  Calc - 18 (+2)
                Writer - 16 (+6)
           LibreOffice -  8 (+3)
               Impress -  3 (-1)
                    UI -  1 (+0)
   filters and storage -  1 (+0)
                  Base -  1 (+0)
                + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
 
        * ~Component   count net * all regressions
                Writer - 228 (+13)
                  Calc - 138 (+0)
               Crashes -  53 (+6)
               Impress -  49 (-1)
                    UI -  44 (+2)
           LibreOffice -  45 (+4)
        graphics stack -  27 (+1)
                  Base -  27 (+1)
               Borders -  24 (+0)
                  Draw -  22 (-1)
   filters and storage -  13 (+0)
                 Chart -  12 (+0)
Printing and PDF export-  11 (-1)
                 BASIC -   9 (+0)
        Formula Editor -   5 (+0)
            Linguistic -   3 (+0)
             framework -   3 (+0)
            Extensions -   2 (+0)
                   sdk -   1 (+1)

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Hi all

Michael Meeks-5 wrote
* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
    + 5.0.3 - RC1 status
        + tagged and released for most platforms
            + up-loaded & ready for testing.
        + found a nasty OpenGL perf. issue (Michael)
 

In case no one noticed, there aren't any 5.0.3.1  x86 builds for Windows (but the x64 have been there for almost 24h)

Maybe this is related to the fact that there aren't any daily builds for Win x86 since Oct 5th for the 5.0 branch and since Oct 6th for Master?

Regards,
Pedro
Christian Lohmaier-3 Christian Lohmaier-3
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Hi Pedro, *,

On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Pedro <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Michael Meeks-5 wrote
>> * Release Engineering update (Cloph)
>>     + 5.0.3 - RC1 status
>>         + tagged and released for most platforms
>>             + up-loaded & ready for testing.
>>         + found a nasty OpenGL perf. issue (Michael)
>
> In case no one noticed, there aren't any 5.0.3.1  x86 builds for Windows
> (but the x64 have been there for almost 24h)

That's because the build-system ran out of diskspace, and I had to
retrigger the build...

(that's also why it hasn't been announced yet)

And yes, related to no tinderbox builds, as they are also provided by
that box - but when  it  is busy doing release-builds, it won't do
tinderbox builds...

ciao
Christian
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Pedro wrote
Maybe this is related to the fact that there aren't any daily builds for Win x86 since Oct 5th for the 5.0 branch and since Oct 6th for Master?
Where are the Windows daily builds?  I have been watching <http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/>, especially Win-x86@39/, and it has had nothing new since August.

Thanks,
Terry.
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Hi *,

On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Terrence Enger <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Pedro wrote
>> Maybe this is related to the fact that there aren't any daily builds for
>> Win x86 since Oct 5th for the 5.0 branch and since Oct 6th for Master?
>
> Where are the Windows daily builds?  I have been watching
> <http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/>, especially Win-x86@39/,

For the TDF bot, see earlier note - when it's on release-build duty,
it won't provide tinderbox builds - as to  @39: that's  not maintained
by me, but by kendy...

ciao
Christian
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Hi Christian, all

Christian Lohmaier-3 wrote
That's because the build-system ran out of diskspace, and I had to
retrigger the build...

(that's also why it hasn't been announced yet)

And yes, related to no tinderbox builds, as they are also provided by
that box - but when  it  is busy doing release-builds, it won't do
tinderbox builds...
Thank you for the quick answer.

In theory TB #62 should also be producing x64 dailies for branch 5.0 and Master but it is not.
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/libreoffice-5-0/Win-x86_64@62-TDF/
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/Win-x86_64@62-TDF/

Maybe you are asking too much of Tinderbox 62? :)

Regards,
Pedro