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* Present:
    + Jmux, Michael S, Kendy, Stephan, Heiko, Christian, Michael M,
      Thorsten, Olivier, Xisco, Eike

* Completed Action Items:
    + fwd port experimental firebird migration patch to -6-2 (Xisco)

* Pending Action Items:
    + run certification script (Kendy)
      [ hope to have run for next time ]
    + add screenshot builder to basic build stats (Christian)
      [ still WIP]

* Release Engineering update (Christian)
    + 6.2 Beta 2 – no request → skip  
    + 6.1.4 RC2
      + due next week tagging expected Tues.  
    + 6.2 RC 1 – Dec 17th
      + Late Features ?
         + donation infobar: merged to master & -6-2 (Heiko)
         + red-lining paragraph attribute re-work (Michael S)
                + trying to aim for UI freeze on Dec 17 for switching the default
            + preparing a back-port of parts already done to -6-2 branch
               + can merge this branch tomorrow
            + doing some testing / fixing of crashers from printing & formatting
            + have a few more issues to fix
            + can we turn it out of experimental in master ? (Thorten)
               + then we get crash-testing – next week perhaps.
         + showstopper fixed for Notebookbar (Heiko)
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103226
            + thanks to Mike K.
         + minor complaint wrt. single Chart save removal in calc (Heiko)
            + how to know ? - checkout release notes
    + Remotes
    + Android viewer
         + tinderbox off-line while it is updated to gcc7 baseline.
    + Online

* Documentation (Olivier)
    + New Help (nothing this week)
    + Help contents
        + pages fixes and refactor (A. Gelmini, erAck,
                                    M. Kaganski, LibreOficiant, ohallot)
        + New help page on OpenPGP encryption (ohallot, bubli).
    + Guides
        + Team working in updating Calc Guide to 6.2

* UX Update (Heiko)
    + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
        260(260) (topicUI) bugs open, 285(285) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
    + Updates:
        BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months  
             added      9(1)     28(-4)    58(2)      102(3)  
         commented     68(34)   168(7)    424(37)    1468(30)
           removed      0(-5)     8(0)      8(0)       13(-1)
          resolved      2(2)      5(-3)    23(1)      113(-3)
    + top 10 contributors:
          Tietze, Heiko made 114 changes in 1 month, and 551 changes in 1 year
          Xisco Faulí made 60 changes in 1 month, and 303 changes in 1 year
          Thomas Lendo made 50 changes in 1 month, and 342 changes in 1 year
          kompilainenn made 21 changes in 1 month, and 63 changes in 1 year
          Dieter Praas made 16 changes in 1 month, and 115 changes in 1 year
          Cor Nouws made 11 changes in 1 month, and 81 changes in 1 year
          himajin100000 made 9 changes in 1 month, and 13 changes in 1 year
          Pedro made 9 changes in 1 month, and 64 changes in 1 year
          Henschel, Regina made 9 changes in 1 month, and 72 changes in 1 year
          Kainz, Andreas made 8 changes in 1 month, and 135 changes in 1 year
   + 11 new needsUXEval between Nov/29-Dec/06

       * Rework tab Header/Footer in dialogue Page style in Calc
         + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121777
       * Autocorrect: an option to avoid auto-capitalization of some words
         + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121779
       * Doesn't active menu item Insert->Headers and Footers in Calc 6.2
         + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121759
       * Table with no styles created by table picker differs from a table
         with no styles created by insert table dialog
         + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121816
       * UI: Name of options section "HTML Compatibility" doesn't match
         the wider scope of available options
         + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121837
       * The problem of drawing trapezoidal graphs
         + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116672
       * Gutters
         + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121883
       * Horizontal table borders appear slightly fatter compared to
         vertical lines and compared to previous versions
         + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121026
       * Unsaved changes to document indicator invisible
         + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121814
       => New/In discussion
       
       * UX - Simplify Page Border Menu & Provide Basic Cover Page Templates
         + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121864
       => Accepted
       
       * Tabbed UI in Windows does not get theme color - remains white.
         + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121877
       => Dup

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
    + 1 (+0) import failures, 9(+0) export failures
        + delayed this week due to compiler base-line changes    
        + box is starting to die OS-wise; needs a re-install ?
    + ?? 8 (+0) coverity issues
        + build stuck in the queue there.
    + 18 Google / ossfuzz:
        + mended toolchain issues here
        + 2 serious, lots of timeout issues / broken build
            + some auto-closed, some auto-opened
            + perhaps reduce size of what is fuzzed up to 0.5Mb not 1Mb eg.
    + ForcePoint, round 9
        + ~2 writer layout issues
        + made progress on 2 of the issues, but failing on CI
    + couple of other issues
        + Issue in progress, finally agreed an embargo with AOO
           + now have a CVE to go with this; Jan 2019 embargo.
    + CNA process joy ?
        + updated page: https://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/security/
    + PVS Studio
        + Mike K reports ~1/3rd are resolved – but more to go
        + waiting on him to get another run …
        + nothing high priority left.
    + Another static checker: Svace (a Russian company)
        + sounded enthusiastic – but no bug yet.

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
    + http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.0.6.2
         + 1273 (last 7 days) (+4)
    + http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.0.7.3
         + 641 (last 7 days) (+142)
    + http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.1.2.1
         + 3203 2929 (last 7 days) (+274)
    + http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.1.3.2
         + 3017 2298 (last 7 days) (+719)
    + expect 6.1.4 to be better

* Hackfests & Events (Thorsten)
   + next year hackfests coming up:
        + FOSDEM in February
          + correction from last week
          + Wed/Thur- 2 days ~3 days before the conference confirmed.
          + lots going on on Friday there
          + Add yourself to the dinner / hackfest wiki page:
              + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2019/FOSDEM
        + Tirana perhaps in March/April
        + Paris in summer
        + tentative Dresden: late autumn (past mid-October, for having students)
   + hope to have one each quarter.    
   + GSoC’19
     + https://opensource.googleblog.com/2018/11/google-summer-of-code-15-years-strong.html
        + project signup starts to open Jan 15th
     + good to come up with good ideas / design plans for the wiki (Thorsten)
          + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas
        + Heiko / Xisco as org. admins ?
        + trouble with decision of what projects ? (Heiko)
           + based on mentor power and student quality (Thorsten)

   + C++ lectures ( Xisco )
     + 1 session:
   + Dec 13th from 19 to 2 UTC in #libreoffice-dev
          + More info: https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2018/12/05/learn-c-with-the-help-of-libreoffice-developers/
        + topic won’t need preparation: would love ESC attendees to come help.
        + see how it goes & how many are interested

* mentoring/easyhack update
          committer...   1 week       1 month     3 months     12 months  
                  open       77(-12)     122(-7)      128(-6)      137(-8)
               reviews     1351(-229)   5215(84)    13049(144)   35305(631)
                merged      368(-41)    1380(85)     3800(126)   15450(-41)
             abandoned       16(1)        73(-36)     236(7)       971(-4)
           own commits      375(69)     1524(57)     4246(166)   15633(21)
        review commits       63(1)       372(-3)      844(-12)    3722(-6)
        contributor...   1 week    1 month   3 months   12 months    
                  open     17(-5)     54(3)     56(3)        58(2)  
               reviews     57(-18)   237(5)    432(11)    18335(-778)
                merged     25(-3)    149(4)    309(-11)    1547(-2)  
             abandoned      5(3)      30(4)     61(-3)      293(-1)  
           own commits     30(-8)    181(4)    378(-11)    1544(14)  
        review commits      0(0)       0(0)      0(0)         0(0)  
    + easyHack statistics:
       needsDevEval 59(59)   needsUXEval 3(3)   cleanup_comments 234(234)  
       total 294(294)   assigned 22(22)   open 206(206)  
    + top 10 contributors:
          Gelmini, Andrea made 60 patches in 1 month, and 535 patches in 1 year
          Sophia Schröder made 32 patches in 1 month, and 171 patches in 1 year
          Illarionov, Arkadiy made 10 patches in 1 month, and 46 patches in 1 year
          Ilmari Lauhakangas made 10 patches in 1 month, and 47 patches in 1 year
          Zoltán Zdibák made 10 patches in 1 month, and 18 patches in 1 year
          Aleksei Nikiforov made 9 patches in 1 month, and 10 patches in 1 year
          Roman Kuznetsov made 4 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
          sabri unal made 4 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
          Alain Romedenne made 4 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
          Balazs Varga made 3 patches in 1 month, and 13 patches in 1 year
    + top 10 reviewers:
          McNamara, Caolán made 146 review comments in 1 month, and 1037 in 1 year
          Behrens, Thorsten made 141 review comments in 1 month, and 1501 in 1 year
          Nabet, Julien made 135 review comments in 1 month, and 1022 in 1 year
          Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 131 review comments in 1 month, and 1014 in 1 year
          Olivier Hallot made 128 review comments in 1 month, and 562 in 1 year
          Bergmann, Stephan made 108 review comments in 1 month, and 691 in 1 year
          Vajna, Miklos made 101 review comments in 1 month, and 1282 in 1 year
          Grandin, Noel made 98 review comments in 1 month, and 1268 in 1 year
          Meeks, Michael made 94 review comments in 1 month, and 785 in 1 year
          Xisco Faulí made 93 review comments in 1 month, and 441 in 1 year
    + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
* Commit Access

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy/Thorsten)
    + pending the script.

* Jenkins / CI update (Christian)
    from:Thu Nov 29 15:00:03 2018
    master linux rel  jobs: 129 ok:  40 ko:  89 fail ratio: 68.99 % break:   6 broken duration:60.37%
    master linux dbg  jobs:  99 ok:  88 ko:  10 fail ratio: 10.10 % break:   1 broken duration:12.40%
    master mac rel    jobs:  63 ok:  59 ko:   4 fail ratio:  6.35 % break:   2 broken duration:20.93%
    master mac dbg    jobs:  61 ok:  57 ko:   4 fail ratio:  6.56 % break:   2 broken duration: 2.97%
    master win rel    jobs:  67 ok:  19 ko:  48 fail ratio: 71.64 % break:   7 broken duration:70.92%
    master win dbg    jobs:  69 ok:  47 ko:  22 fail ratio: 31.88 % break:  15 broken duration:30.99%
    master win64 dbg  jobs:  69 ok:  54 ko:  15 fail ratio: 21.74 % break:   8 broken duration:29.32%
    lo-5.3 mac        jobs:   0 ok:   0 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
    lo-5.4 mac        jobs:   0 ok:   0 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
    master gerrit lin jobs: 695 ok: 600 ko:  32 fail ratio:  4.60% time for ok: mean:  22 median:  20
    master gerrit plg jobs: 697 ok: 494 ko: 125 fail ratio: 17.93% time for ok: mean:  39 median:  35
    master gerrit win jobs: 789 ok: 496 ko: 163 fail ratio: 20.66% time for ok: mean:  79 median:  80
    master gerrit mac jobs: 707 ok: 563 ko:  27 fail ratio:  3.82% time for ok: mean:  62 median:  38
    master gerrit all jobs: 566 ok: 317 ko: 200 fail ratio: 35.34% time for ok: mean: 161 median: 157
   + https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit_181206.html 
   + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
      4 UITest_solver
      5 CppunitTest_sw_uiwriter
      6 CppunitTest_sw_layoutwriter
      6 CppunitTest_vcl_complextext
      7 CppunitTest_sd_tiledrendering
      9 CppunitTest_vcl_pdfexport (is on auto-retry since Tue)
      9 UITest_writer_tests5
   + busy week for tinderboxen – 500 builds in last weeks, now over 700
     + bottleneck on windows / clang.
   + windows tinderbox had compiler 15.9 – which has a regression compared
     to 15.7.
   + add vcl pdf exporttest – that triggers an auto-rebuild
     + won’t have to manually resume that; it just does it.
   + ordered a new build machine & mac-mini
     + which can be a Linux/Windows builder
   + do we re-build again when vcl_pdfexport fails ? (Michael)
     + starts again from clean.
    + would need a retry in make or elsewhere (lode’s tb_slave_wrapper)
      in the build not CI.
      (no guarantee of being executed on same slave on a jenkins resume/retry)

* l10n (Sophie)
    + testing of Beta for plural forms ?

* Tinderbox bits (Stephan)
    + gandalf – too old compiler; keeps failing tinderboxen
       + bit of a problem, needs SUSE goodwill to help us connect a console etc.
       + can we not live-upgrade it ? (Thorsten)
       + just needs a new gcc (Stephan)
          + some SLES12 there – with internal repos etc. (Thorsten)
             + in some odd state there.
       + not eager to touch it unless we can afford to loose it (Thorsten)
    + rsync some container or other onto there ?
    + what jobs run there ? (Thorsten)
       + lcov, perftest(?), random config,
         UI testing, update, UI testing (Stephan, Christian)
       + can we move jobs off it ?
          + unclear if they have extra build deps ? (Christian)
             + perhaps more sustainable to migrate this (Thorsten)
    + poke Guilhelm → to poke admins (Christian)

* QA update (Xisco)

    + Please help flesh out the monthly reports:
        https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/2qbepFYXXan4ief

    + nice drop in unconfirmed
        + many moved to NEEDINFO are closed.

    + UNCONFIRMED: 478 (-42)
        + enhancements: 60  (-1)
        + needsUXEval: 3 (+0)
        + haveBackTrace: 3 (-2)
        + needsDevAdvice: 18 (-1)
        + documentation:  5 (+0)
        + android:  10 (-4)
        + KDE5 crashes (until 6.2): 4 ( 0 )
            + KDE5: Crash closing check for update dialog
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121516
            + kde5: Sporadic crash when right-clicking items in toolbar
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120454
            + KDE5: Impress crashes after selecting some of Slide Transitions
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121266
            + KDE5: Impress crashes at starting Slide show (with animation...
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121247
    + Most pressing bugs:
        + New
            + LibreOffice Vanilla not usable; opens OK but crashes entering
              data on macOS 10.14.1 Mojave
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121778
                + Tor is looking into it, published a ver → looking again.
            + Crash in: SwFrame::PrepareMake(OutputDevice *)
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119126
                + Miklos ? - lots of crashes in crash reporter.
        + Older
            + Can't edit file on samba shares
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115747
                    + lots of feedbackon ‘ask’ about this (Mike K)
                    + juergen funk ?
            + Crash after accepting all changes from compared documents
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109376
                + M. Stahl ?
            + Crash restarting LibreOffice after applying an option
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121180
                + Diadlo, Bubli ? ...
            + Crashes on UNDO
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120754
                + dtardon / Caolan. Its an extension, so I'm guessing that
                  one of the steps is outside undo control
            + Crash applying bold to textbox control
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120750
                + Jochen Nitschke / mst ? - Xisco poked Jochen.

            + Crash in: SwIndex::SwIndex(SwIndexReg * const,long)
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119989
                + bisected to Ash

            + Calc: Crash when cutting some content
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118707
                + Henry Castro

        + Fixed
            + Contour editor crashes
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121022
                + Thanks to Armin Le Grand

            + Crash in: libgobject-2.0.so.0.5600.3 when selecting more on error
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121810
                + Thanks to Caolán McNamara

            + gtk3_kde5: Impress presentation minimizer crashes
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121892
                + Thanks to Michael Weghorn

            + [gtk3_kde5] 6.1 stable branch: within Plasma-5 session w/ drkonqi: lo_kde5filepicker crashes every time on close (OK/Cancel regardless)
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121399
                + Thanks to Michael Weghorn

* QA stats
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
      +164  +28 (-191) overall)
      many thanks to the top bug squashers:
       QA Administrators       32
       Xisco Faulí             20
       Caolán McNamara         12
       Markus Mohrhard         9
       Heiko Tietze            9
       Buovjaga                8
       Timur                   8
       Dieter Praas            6
       Roman Kuznetsov         6
       Katarina Behrens (CIB)  5

    + top 10 bugs reporters:
       Dan Dascalescu          6
       Regina Henschel         4
       和尚蟹                   4
       Rizal Muttaqin          3
       Telesto                 3
       Mike Kaganski           3
       Dieter Praas            3
       Drew Jensen             3
       Buovjaga                2
       Frederic Parrenin       2

    + top 10 bugs fixers:
       McNamara, Caolán        9
       Mohrhard, Markus        7
       Xisco Faulí             3
       Vera Blagoveschenskaya  3
       Tietze, Heiko           3
       Németh, László          3
       Lillqvist, Tor          2
       Kaganski, Mike          2
       Vajna, Miklos           2
       kompilainenn            2

    + top 10 bugs confirmers:
       Xisco Faulí             63
       Dieter Praas            20
       Tietze, Heiko           11
       Timur                   7
       Raal                    7
       Alex Thurgood           6
       Brinzing, Oliver        5
       Foote, V Stuart         5
       Buovjaga                4


* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
   + http://bit.ly/2lJAAJI
     6.0 : 3/51 -     5 %  (+1)
     5.4 : 1/40 -     2 %  (+0)
     5.3 : 2/54 -     3 %  (+0)
     5.2 : 2/42 -     4 %  (+2)
     5.1 : 0/35 -     0 %  (+0)
     5.0 : 3/65 -     4 %  (+0)
     4.4 : 1/76 -     1 %  (+0)
     4.3 : 2/73 -     2 %  (+0)
     4.2 : 4/133 -    3 %  (+0)
     4.1 : 3/84 -     3 %  (+0)
     4.0 : 4/83 -     4 %  (+0)
     old : 19/257 -   7 %  (+0)


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
   + more accurate - down to a single commit.
   + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
   + 618/2800 619/2782 614/2756 609/2732 602/2702 599/2682 601/2660

     done by:
        Raal                   7
        Xisco Faulí            7
        Budea, Áron            2
        Telesto                1
 

* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
   + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
   + 810/3568 811/3549 801/3517 795/3494 787/3460 785/3440 785/3416

     done by:
        Raal                   7
        Xisco Faulí            7
        Budea, Áron            2
        Terrence Enger         1
        Telesto                1


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
   + 1072(-3) bugs open of 7879(+22) total 15(+2) high prio.

     done by:
        Xisco Faulí           10
        Alex Thurgood          3
        kompilainenn           2
        Dieter Praas           1
        k-j                    1
        Telesto                1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
   + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
     LibreOffice   - 6(+1)
     Writer        - 5(+1)
     Calc          - 2(+0)
     graphics stack - 1(+0)
     Base          - 1(+0)

   by OS:
     All           - 12(+2)
     Linux         - 0(+0)
     Windows       - 3(+0)
     Mac OS X      - 0(+0)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
   + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
     Writer: other            - 281(-1)
     Calc                     - 197(+1)
     Impress                  - 116(+2)
     Writer: docx filter      - 75(+1)
     LibreOffice              - 73(+0)
     Draw                     - 43(+1)
     UI                       - 43(-1)
     Borders                  - 41(+2)
     Writer: perf             - 36(+0)
     Base                     - 36(+0)
     Writer: doc filter       - 34(+0)
     graphics stack           - 33(+0)
     Crashes                  - 31(+0)
     Writer: other filter     - 28(+3)
     filters and storage      - 24(+0)
     Printing and PDF export  - 16(+1)
     BASIC                    - 13(-1)
     Chart                    - 9(-8)
     Linguistic               - 3(+1)
     framework                - 2(+0)
     sdk                      - 1(+0)
     Extensions               - 1(+0)
     Formula Editor           - 1(+0)

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Re: minutes of ESC call ...

Hi Markus,

On 06/12/2018 16:46, Markus Mohrhard wrote:
>              + minor complaint wrt. single Chart save removal in calc
>     (Heiko)
>                 + how to know ? - checkout release notes
>  
> These people should feel free to complain to me. However the removal was
> necessary and long overdue. Actually, the feature was responsible for
> many regressions and was originally intended by me for debugging purposes.

        Amusing =) Heiko would know those involved I guess.

> perftest is not running on gandalf, instead on vm139. 
>
> As I'm one of the main users of gandalf (e.g. update, UI testing, random
> config) and some more exotic builds not managed by jenkins I will try to
> take care of the update during the weekend.

        Thanks so much for that ! seems like that one machine does a lot.

        ATB,

                Michael.

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Re: minutes of ESC call ...

On 06.12.18 17:51, Michael Meeks wrote:

> Hi Markus,
>
> On 06/12/2018 16:46, Markus Mohrhard wrote:
>>              + minor complaint wrt. single Chart save removal in calc
>>     (Heiko)
>>                 + how to know ? - checkout release notes
>>  
>> These people should feel free to complain to me. However the removal was
>> necessary and long overdue. Actually, the feature was responsible for
>> many regressions and was originally intended by me for debugging purposes.
>
> Amusing =) Heiko would know those involved I guess.
Of course it was necessary. I mentioned the irritation just as a reminder to acknowledge everyone about changes. If it was announces at the ESC people can blame me to not forward the info :-).


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