[Libreoffice-qa] what to do with AOO - Sidebar - experimental feature in libreoffice-4-1 master and the 4.1.0 branch

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[Libreoffice-qa] what to do with AOO - Sidebar - experimental feature in libreoffice-4-1 master and the 4.1.0 branch

OK, so with a bit of git magic, looks like the Apache OpenOffice work on their Sidebar implementation of the Symphony contribution has been merged into LibreOffice master. And, unless I am really misreading the git logs, has been included in the libreoffice-4-1 branch (at commit a2c9d4f8bbde97f175bae4df771273a61251f402).

So while it is too soon for the 4.1 tinderboxes to verify that myself, but looking at a master TB 6 build that predates the branch point by several hours:

tinderbox: buildname: Win-x86@6
tinderbox: tree: MASTER
tinderbox: pull time 2013-05-20 20:57:59
tinderbox: git sha1s
core:de00b8bb67b7453b45e081fe602782803eab1349

...the Apache OpenOffice Sidebar feature is present in the 4.1.0 branch as an experimental feature, i.e. accessible from Tools -> Options -> Advanced -> Optional (unstable) options -- "Enable experimental sidebar (on restart)"  check-box.

Not wrong if it makes it into 4.1.0 branch I guess, but it presents some logistical issues from a QA perspective, and raises a question.  Does the ESC want QA to submit LibreOffice bugs against these experimental features, or should we continue to track and test implementation of Sidebar on the AOO side where active development resides with Andre, Oliver, and others. Following the primary AOO meta bug for Sidebar implementation is https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121420

I can verify the merged Sidebar already works in LibreOffice, and that it has the same UI issues as the AOO Dev builds (several already corrected), but beyond that how much of a role will LO Devs take on that I need to split any QA effort on?

Stuart
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Re: QA on - experimental features in 4.1 ...

Hi Stuart,

On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 15:11 +0000, V Stuart Foote wrote:
> And, unless I am really misreading the git logs, has been included
> in the libreoffice-4-1 branch

        Glad someone's watching the logs :-)

> So while it is too soon for the 4.1 tinderboxes to verify that

        It seems pretty clear that this feature is not yet ready; so it is
currently setup like this:

        + you need to enable an experimental option in 'Advanced'
        + you have to re-start the app after toggling that
        + then you need to turn it on in the View menu ;-)

        So - as with other experimental features, this is a preview. It's not
something we need to invest much, if any amount of QA effort into - I
anticipate all manner of problems with it. In general, I think we should
be focusing any manual QA we have on the default setup - interop.
issues, file format updates, bug changes, the Java wizard port, and/or
any other of the major features that people listed so far here:

        http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.1

        We have a lot of useful new features that will get wider exposure
there. My expectation is that we'll continue to do fixes and
improvements on the sidebar past the freeze date, and it will be
available as a demo / proof-of-concept for the adventurous. There are
lots of discussion about how to properly integrate the feature into the
LibreOffice UI in a way that makes sense that havn't happened yet.
Hopefully having it as an experimental feature enables -some- of that
discussion to start.

        *But* - personally, I'd rather delay that - and have a focus on QA /
bug-fixing / etc. while we go through the beta phase - and not get
distracted :-)

        Does that make sense ?

        ATB,

                Michael.

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Re: QA on - experimental features in 4.1 ...

Hi Michael

Michael Meeks-2 wrote
        It seems pretty clear that this feature is not yet ready; so it is
currently setup like this:

        + you need to enable an experimental option in 'Advanced'
        + you have to re-start the app after toggling that
        + then you need to turn it on in the View menu ;-)
Thank you for the detailed instrcutions :) I do like this feature! I'm glad some code is flowing between projects!

And yes, it's pretty unstable :) Clicking on any of the "More Options" buttons in the Sidebar silently crashes LO under Windows 7 x64 :)

Cheers,
Pedro