[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 89733] New: SIDEBAR: Using sliders next to value fields

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 89733] New: SIDEBAR: Using sliders next to value fields

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89733

            Bug ID: 89733
           Summary: SIDEBAR: Using sliders next to value fields
           Product: LibreOffice
           Version: 4.5.0.0.alpha0+ Master
          Hardware: Other
                OS: All
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: medium
         Component: ux-advise
          Assignee: [hidden email]
          Reporter: [hidden email]
                CC: [hidden email]
            Blocks: 65138

Created attachment 113770
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=113770&action=edit
mockup

The sidebar contains many percentage fields in the properties tab in various
sections (e.g. transparency field in the line section). Unfortunately these
fields are overly large in width for no good reason except to keep the field
aligned with other fields. It would be more beneficial to replace these fields
with a slider control or alternatively have the slider next to a smaller field.

I've attached a mockup but as we dont have any other sliders in the UI except
in the statusbar, i used that as an example.

It would be good to implement this same slider concept in the dialog boxes as
well.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 89733] SIDEBAR: Using sliders next to value fields

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--- Comment #1 from A (Andy) <[hidden email]> ---
I think this is a nice proposal.  Then you would theoretical have no more that
much unused space and you would have an additional UI feature and such a system
is also used for the zoom function in WRITER in the bottom right-hand corner of
the main window and for the rotation feature in the Sidebar we have also a
slider system.

But from the layout it should then maybe also look like (at least similar to
[with the circle]) the already existing zoom slider?

The only thing I am thinking about is, whether there is then enough space for
such a slider, meaning that the slider will not be too small and would be
practial?  In this case one has also to think about different (maybe longer)
translations of "Transparency" in other languages.  This is maybe a critical
point for such a proposal.
Otherwise, you would need to put the slider into a next line (like currently
for the Line Style feature, though Jay has also another good proposal for this
Line Style feature -> see 89543), but in this case the space issue would no
longer really be touched with such a proposal, but you would nevertheless get
this new UI feature and would no longer have this long not necessary input
line.

For me it would be interesting to get to know what others would think about
such a nice and interesting enhancement proposal.

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--- Comment #2 from Heiko Tietze <[hidden email]> ---
Sliders are a good means for arbitrary changes within a defined range. To
support accessibility and in order to achieve precise input a spin box is
sometimes appended that not only shows the actual value but allows to modify
it.

We should take care about a consistent implementation. Normally, min and max
should be labeled (not necessary if the range is clear from content but
consistency be respected). It's not recommendable to use non-linear scales (but
often done for zoom; with more labels/tickmarks then). And for an appealing
design it makes sense to have not too many sliders in one dialog/view.

Jay's and Andy's examples make perfect sense.

HIGs:
Gtk2: https://developer.gnome.org/hig-book/2.32/controls-sliders.html
Gtk3: (linked to the Gtk2 guideline)
KDE Slider: https://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Usability/HIG/Slider
KDE Slider + Spin box:
https://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Usability/HIG/Slider_and_Spin_Box

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--- Comment #3 from Jay Philips <[hidden email]> ---
Created attachment 113785
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=113785&action=edit
improved slider

(In reply to A (Andy) from comment #1)
> But from the layout it should then maybe also look like (at least similar to
> [with the circle]) the already existing zoom slider?

I pulled the slider from the zoom slider for the mockup but was able to grab
the correct slider control for my theme from glade, so i've attached an updated
mockup.

> The only thing I am thinking about is, whether there is then enough space
> for such a slider, meaning that the slider will not be too small and would
> be practial?  In this case one has also to think about different (maybe
> longer) translations of "Transparency" in other languages.  This is maybe a
> critical point for such a proposal.

The slider isnt small in the new mockup. Well about longer lengths of the word
'transparency' in different languages, it would adjust according to the width
of the string, just like it does now with the percentage field.

> Otherwise, you would need to put the slider into a next line (like currently
> for the Line Style feature, though Jay has also another good proposal for
> this Line Style feature -> see 89543), but in this case the space issue
> would no longer really be touched with such a proposal, but you would
> nevertheless get this new UI feature and would no longer have this long not
> necessary input line.

A number of times, the transparency label is on a different line than the
percentage field (e.g. Graphic section when you click on an image), so there
isnt a problem there. :D

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--- Comment #4 from Yousuf (Jay) Philips <[hidden email]> ---
Places this should be implemented.

Area section > Transparency
Graphic section > Brightness, Contrast, Transparency, Red, Blue, Green

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