[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 92406] New: STATUSBAR: Making the statusbar configurable in Writer

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 92406] New: STATUSBAR: Making the statusbar configurable in Writer

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            Bug ID: 92406
           Summary: STATUSBAR: Making the statusbar configurable in Writer
           Product: LibreOffice
           Version: 5.1.0.0.alpha0+ Master
          Hardware: Other
                OS: All
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: medium
         Component: ux-advise
          Assignee: [hidden email]
          Reporter: [hidden email]
                CC: [hidden email]
            Blocks: 86066

As stated in bug 88367, we have many fields in the statusbar that are of little
use to main users, so rather than removing them as some are opposed to this,
these fields can be hidden by default and then enabled by users who wish to use
them.

Fields i think can be hidden by default :-
1) Text Language - Useful to users who write documents in multiple languages
2) Insert Mode - Cursor indicates which mode you are in
3) Selection Mode - available in Edit menu
4) Document Modified State - save toolbar button provides this functionality
5) Digital Signature - limited to users who digitally sign their documents

I would suggest that the option to enable/disable these fields be accessible in
a View > Statusbar submenu along with the the current View > Statusbar
checkbox. Alternatively, it would be available in the Tools > Options dialog
(LibreOffice Writer > View).

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--- Comment #1 from V Stuart Foote <[hidden email]> ---
+1  but need to agree on which fields continue to show by default, and
prioritization of sizing behavior when more fields are open than fit the width
of the status bar.

And of course this will need complete details in F1 help and documentation.

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--- Comment #2 from Heiko Tietze <[hidden email]> ---
It's hard to imagine the user who tweaks the status bar rather than switching
it completely on/off. However customization makes sense in general. But I think
those settings belong to the configuration, i.e the dialog.

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--- Comment #3 from Yousuf (Jay) Philips <[hidden email]> ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #1)
> +1  but need to agree on which fields continue to show by default, and
> prioritization of sizing behavior when more fields are open than fit the
> width of the status bar.

What is remaining is - Page Number, Word Count, Page Style, Object Properties,
Page View, Zoom.

(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #2)
> It's hard to imagine the user who tweaks the status bar rather than
> switching it completely on/off. However customization makes sense in
> general. But I think those settings belong to the configuration, i.e the
> dialog.

Yes customizing things are limited to more advanced users (e.g. Eve), so we
need to have the default statusbar suitable to new and average users (e.g.
Benjamin). The other alternative is to have a basic and advanced mode for the
statusbar, so users dont have to choose everything they want enabled and then
it would be a simplified option that could be in the View menu, and likely a
simplified option for a dev to correctly specify the sizes for the basic mode.

Here are statusbar options in other suites:

Google Docs - None

iWork Pages '09 - Zoom Percentage, Word Count, Page Number -
http://www.digitalcupcake.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/iWork-Pages-One-Up-Two-Up.png

iWork Page 5.0 - No actual statusbar, but you can enable a hovering Word Count
that appears close to the bottom of the window.

Word 2013 - Page Number, Word Count, Spell Check status, View Shortcuts, Zoom
Slider & Percentage - http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/Dzds_djefuI/maxresdefault.jpg

Word 2011 Mac - View Shortcuts, Section, Page Number, Word Count, Zoom
Percentage & Slider -
https://noppyfoto.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/screen-shot-2011-03-24-at-1-32-18-pm.png

AbiWord - Page Number, Insert status, not sure what the next one is :D,
Language - http://imagenes.es.sftcdn.net/es/scrn/13000/13357/abiword-23.jpg

WPS/Kingsoft Writer - Page & Section Number, Row & Column Number, Word Count,
Spell Check status, AutoBackup status, View Shortcuts, Zoom Percentage & Slider
-
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mtmWGiSCVj4/VEdl2zI2__I/AAAAAAABi3U/sF3mGV2cU7U/s1600/wps-writer_ubuntu.jpg

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*** Bug 97681 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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*** Bug 97681 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88296
[Bug 88296] Show Caps Lock status in LibreOffice UI
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[Bug 113828] Add statusbar tab to customization dialog
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--- Comment #7 from Tom Colley <[hidden email]> ---
I think customization of status bar issues could be solved by allowing users to
specify for each item in the status bar:
- hide/show
- high/normal display priority
- left-right order of display
Some algorithm could be deployed to share the display space between items on
this basis. An easy "reset to default" option would be pragmatic for saving
novice users from "fiddling" errors.

Personally, I rely on the zoom buttons for Writer and Calc but often find they
disappear when I'm sharing a single screen with multiple applications. Having
this capability in Calc would also give me/others continual access to the
useful "Selection Sum/Count/etc." facility, which often gets hidden.

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--- Comment #13 from Ron Johnson <[hidden email]> ---
I agree with Tom Colley in comment #7.  Being able to hide items that are of no
use to me (which would make items that I DO care about appear, since they
disappear when I use narrow windows) would be a great boon.

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