[Libreoffice-ux-advise] Pps/ppsx Autplay Presentations

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] Pps/ppsx Autplay Presentations

Hi,

could you look at this bug
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45233

It's about how to edit Autoplay Presentations (which automatically start
and end). At the moment it's not possible to edit them.

I first created a patch [1] that just leaves LibreOffice open at the end
of the presentation so you can edit it. This one was rejected. The
reasons are in the comment.

Now I created a new patch [2] which does the following:
- If the presentation is played until the end, Impress will be closed,
as it is now.
- If the presentation is cancelled (ESC or Context Menu->Close), the
editor window is shown and you can edit the presentation.

Now a user suggested [3] to copy the behaviour from Microsoft. It means,
that you can only edit those files when you open them via File->Open. If
you start them by double-clicking, they will autoplay.


Personally, I don't like the last suggestion, because it's just not
intuitive. I would not try that if I wanted to edit an Autoplay
Presentation.
I think that the second suggestion is the best one, because that's the
first thing I would try if I wanted to edit such a presentation.

What do you think?

Samuel

[1] https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/4921
[2] https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/4960
[3] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45233#c21
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Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Pps/ppsx Autplay Presentations

Samuel Mehrbrodt píše v Pá 19. 07. 2013 v 10:06 +0200:

> Hi,
>
> could you look at this bug
> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45233
>
> It's about how to edit Autoplay Presentations (which automatically start
> and end). At the moment it's not possible to edit them.
>
> I first created a patch [1] that just leaves LibreOffice open at the end
> of the presentation so you can edit it. This one was rejected. The
> reasons are in the comment.
>
> Now I created a new patch [2] which does the following:
> - If the presentation is played until the end, Impress will be closed,
> as it is now.
> - If the presentation is cancelled (ESC or Context Menu->Close), the
> editor window is shown and you can edit the presentation.
>
> Now a user suggested [3] to copy the behaviour from Microsoft. It means,
> that you can only edit those files when you open them via File->Open. If
> you start them by double-clicking, they will autoplay.
>
>
> Personally, I don't like the last suggestion, because it's just not
> intuitive. I would not try that if I wanted to edit an Autoplay
> Presentation.

I agree that the third solution is not as intuitive as the 1st and 2nd
solution but I am not sure about the decision.

I think that the important question is why the PPS/PPSX Autoplay
Presentations fileformat was created and how it is typically used.

I wonder if it was created as a kind of read-only file format, something
like PDF. I would imagine that presenters want it because they do not
want to get disturbed by the LO UI at all. This is why I am not sure
about the 2nd solution. People might want to switch between
presentations, might be in hurry and skip few last slides, ... IMHO,
skipping between presentations is not professional but if it is how
people use this format?

> I think that the second suggestion is the best one, because that's the
> first thing I would try if I wanted to edit such a presentation.
>
> What do you think?

Thanks for opening this question on the UX advise team. I wonder what
will be the opinion of the experts.

Best Regards,
Petr

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Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Pps/ppsx Autplay Presentations

We discussed this topic at the Design chat and came to the conclusion
that we offer an item in the context menu of the presentation named
"Edit Presentation".

I'll update the patch accordingly.

Thanks
Samuel
Am 19.07.2013 10:53, schrieb Petr Mladek:

> Samuel Mehrbrodt píše v Pá 19. 07. 2013 v 10:06 +0200:
>> Hi,
>>
>> could you look at this bug
>> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45233
>>
>> It's about how to edit Autoplay Presentations (which automatically start
>> and end). At the moment it's not possible to edit them.
>>
>> I first created a patch [1] that just leaves LibreOffice open at the end
>> of the presentation so you can edit it. This one was rejected. The
>> reasons are in the comment.
>>
>> Now I created a new patch [2] which does the following:
>> - If the presentation is played until the end, Impress will be closed,
>> as it is now.
>> - If the presentation is cancelled (ESC or Context Menu->Close), the
>> editor window is shown and you can edit the presentation.
>>
>> Now a user suggested [3] to copy the behaviour from Microsoft. It means,
>> that you can only edit those files when you open them via File->Open. If
>> you start them by double-clicking, they will autoplay.
>>
>>
>> Personally, I don't like the last suggestion, because it's just not
>> intuitive. I would not try that if I wanted to edit an Autoplay
>> Presentation.
> I agree that the third solution is not as intuitive as the 1st and 2nd
> solution but I am not sure about the decision.
>
> I think that the important question is why the PPS/PPSX Autoplay
> Presentations fileformat was created and how it is typically used.
>
> I wonder if it was created as a kind of read-only file format, something
> like PDF. I would imagine that presenters want it because they do not
> want to get disturbed by the LO UI at all. This is why I am not sure
> about the 2nd solution. People might want to switch between
> presentations, might be in hurry and skip few last slides, ... IMHO,
> skipping between presentations is not professional but if it is how
> people use this format?
>
>> I think that the second suggestion is the best one, because that's the
>> first thing I would try if I wanted to edit such a presentation.
>>
>> What do you think?
> Thanks for opening this question on the UX advise team. I wonder what
> will be the opinion of the experts.
>
> Best Regards,
> Petr
>

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