[Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

classic Classic list List threaded Threaded
40 messages Options
12 « Prev
pierre-yves samyn pierre-yves samyn
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

Hi Jean-Baptiste, all

Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote
Even if this button is not the right implementation of the function, the
function is useful and should be kept.
+1

Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote
That means a function being accessible in the default UI, and not only in the Navigator or in a
toolbar which is not open by default.
Yes but now the user must first click the center button to display the navigation
bar and select the navigation mode (except for page navigation which is default).

My English is not good I have not been specific enough in my proposal.
My idea would be that the "future" navigation toolbar would display the same
three buttons as those of the scroll bar.
Click the center button would display the mode selection as currently.
And the bar would take up very little space on the screen.

It would be acceptable for me, having to go through the View menu to display
the toolbar. This is a manipulation that is to be done once if you want to keep
the bar displayed. What do you think?

Regards
Pierre-Yves
Bjoern Michaelsen Bjoern Michaelsen
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

In reply to this post by Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi,

On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 01:02:03PM +0100, bjoern wrote:
> there is a patch to remove the navigator from the scrollbar:
>
>  https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/6045/
>
> Could you guys form a good consensus on if that should be done in the first
> place or not, as that patch is block on that right now. Needs to be clarified
> best before 4.2 branchoff.

As noted there, it was not removed for 4.2, but was for 4.3/master.

Note that if you want to have this implemented differently on 4.3, you need to
get a crystal clear, and welldefined consensus with a reasonable small scope
_now_ so that it can be implemented for 4.3 if a developer should pick up the
resulting bug.

The solution does not have to be perfect, but it needs to be consistly
communicated as a consensus to the developers and have a limited scope. If its
not, someone will have to make an best-intend judgement call like I did with
this change for 4.2. Such things should not be needed -- e.g. this particular
change was lingering on gerrit since September without anyone arguing vicously
on it either way.

Best,

Bjoern
_______________________________________________
Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list
[hidden email]
http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
Jean-Francois Nifenecker Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

In reply to this post by pierre-yves samyn
Hi,

Le 22/11/2013 16:02, pierre-yves samyn a écrit :
>
> Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote
>> Even if this button is not the right implementation of the function, the
>> function is useful and should be kept.
>
> +1
>

Add my vote to the froggies'.

>
> Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote
>> That means a function being accessible in the default UI, and not only in
>> the Navigator or in a
>> toolbar which is not open by default.
>
> Yes but now the user must first click the center button to display the
> navigation
> bar and select the navigation mode (except for page navigation which is
> default).
>
> My English is not good I have not been specific enough in my proposal.
> My idea would be that the "future" navigation toolbar would display the same
> three buttons as those of the scroll bar.
> Click the center button would display the mode selection as currently.
> And the bar would take up very little space on the screen.
>
> It would be acceptable for me, having to go through the View menu to display
> the toolbar. This is a manipulation that is to be done once if you want to
> keep
> the bar displayed. What do you think?

This makes sense to me (yet another toolbar!), although I can't see why
the "navigation" tools couldn't be integrated within another existing
toolbar. The Search toolbar comes to mind first, of course. I had
proposed this in another msg but didn't understand why it isn't as good
as it seems :)

--
Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux
_______________________________________________
Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list
[hidden email]
http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
Cor Nouws Cor Nouws
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

In reply to this post by Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi Bjoern,

bjoern wrote (22-11-13 16:22)

> On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 01:02:03PM +0100, bjoern wrote:

>> Could you guys form a good consensus on if that should be done in the first

> The solution does not have to be perfect, but it needs to be consistly
> communicated as a consensus to the developers and have a limited scope. If its
> not, someone will have to make an best-intend judgement call like I did with
> this change for 4.2. Such things should not be needed -- e.g. this particular
> change was lingering on gerrit since September without anyone arguing vicously
> on it either way.

Thanks that you poked this list to get response.

It's obvious that the state of the discussion is far from reaching "good
concensus" (what is what you asked for) and I do not understand why the
control is removed (patch pushed) now, while it's unclear wheter there
will be a better solution then the maybe in some cirucumstances "not
perfect" present solution.

This really confuses me.


Cor


--
  - Cor Nouws
  - http://nl.libreoffice.org
  - The Document Foundation Membership Committee Member
_______________________________________________
Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list
[hidden email]
http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
Cor Nouws Cor Nouws
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

In reply to this post by Adolfo Jayme Barrientos-3
Hi Adolfo,

Adolfo Jayme Barrientos wrote (21-11-13 15:06)
> A simple reason to not have any widget over scrollbar area: when they
> change size they cause a lot of usability issues. And it’s not only
> this navigation set of buttons: remember what happens with the Sheet
> tabs in Calc? We get a lot of bug reports regarding that they are too
> small, hard to click, unreadable, etc. It's the same with the
> navigation buttons. IT’S SIMPLY NOT the place to have any UI elements.

When I read this, I get confused because I read two different subjects.
You refer to the unreadable sheet tabs in Calc, that are caused by them
being displayed way to small (the whole deviding of the stuff in the
width of the window has shortcomings, as I see it.)
When the navigation buttons are not displayed well, I think that is a
different subject. Or do I miss something?

Thanks,
Cor

--
  - Cor Nouws
  - http://nl.libreoffice.org
  - The Document Foundation Membership Committee Member
_______________________________________________
Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list
[hidden email]
http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
Cor Nouws Cor Nouws
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

In reply to this post by Samuel Mehrbrodt-2
Hi Samuel, *,

Since there is a wide variety of ideas how to act, I decided to look at
the roots of this dicsussion. And IMO - but pls correct me if I'm wrong
- that is in these issues:

Samuel Mehrbrodt wrote (15-11-13 09:30)

> The scrollbar is something which height/width depends on the OS and
> visual theme used. So there are issues where the scrollbar is too small
> and the widgets are displayed wrongly [1].
>  [...]
> [1] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40429 and
> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58748 for example

Now in Bug 40429 I read:
- Description:   " in the middle of the two "double arrows". Should be a
little circle, but it doesn't fit. "
- Comment 2: " the issue is Ubuntu (Unity Desktop) has very thin scroll
bars.

OK, so there should be a circle but it is something different. ?
However it works fine, doesn't it. And it does not jump in the eye as an
ugly distortion, anyway not to me.


With Bug 58748 / 36772 etc etc it is about the sheet tabs not being
displayed correctly. I agree that that is a problem, and not a tiny one.
But I miss how that should that be improved by removing the navigation
controls.

So after reading this in detail, I'm not sure if there is a real problem
that can be solved by removing controls (that by the way just work and
are being used).

Is there some other real problem that needs to be addressed by the
patch? Is there something that I oversee?

Thanks,

Cor

--
  - Cor Nouws
  - http://nl.libreoffice.org
  - The Document Foundation Membership Committee Member
_______________________________________________
Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list
[hidden email]
http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
Bjoern Michaelsen Bjoern Michaelsen
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

In reply to this post by Cor Nouws
Hi,

On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 02:55:11PM +0100, Cor Nouws wrote:
> It's obvious that the state of the discussion is far from reaching
> "good concensus" (what is what you asked for) and I do not
> understand why the control is removed (patch pushed) now, while it's
> unclear wheter there will be a better solution then the maybe in
> some cirucumstances "not perfect" present solution.

The patch in question:
- was on gerrit since Sept. so it had to have a decision being make
- on gerrit it had two votes supporting the change (Tor, Alfredo)
- I notified this list for their convenience, and checked back a week later
  with no conclusive vote to be found

As such the change goes it, as letting the original author wait even longer
would be highly discouraging to the author and a bad precedent to contributors.
As said, this doesnt bar this list to provide construtive input on how to proceed.

Best,

Bjoern

P.S.: Also note, that just because this is now in on master it would be
      impossible to undo for a release. But I would really hate to do that, as
      there is an opportunity to push this forward and let Samuel make this better in
      4.3. As said, that would need a quick and conclusive description on where to go
      from here.
_______________________________________________
Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list
[hidden email]
http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
Adolfo Jayme Barrientos-3 Adolfo Jayme Barrientos-3
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

In reply to this post by Cor Nouws
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Cor Nouws <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi Adolfo,
>
> When I read this, I get confused because I read two different subjects.
> You refer to the unreadable sheet tabs in Calc, that are caused by them
> being displayed way to small (the whole deviding of the stuff in the width
> of the window has shortcomings, as I see it.)
> When the navigation buttons are not displayed well, I think that is a
> different subject. Or do I miss something?

Both bugs (tiny navigation buttons and tiny sheet tabs) have the same
root cause: they’re placed on (and depend on the size of) scrollbars.
That’s why I mentioned those tabs.
_______________________________________________
Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list
[hidden email]
http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
Cor Nouws Cor Nouws
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

In reply to this post by Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi Bjoern,

bjoern wrote (23-11-13 15:52)

> The patch in question:
> - was on gerrit since Sept. so it had to have a decision being make

OK, if there is a technical reason that a decision is needed, fine.
Therefore I thanked you to ask this list.

> - on gerrit it had two votes supporting the change (Tor, Alfredo)
> - I notified this list for their convenience, and checked back a week later
>    with no conclusive vote to be found

One couuld also judge the many questions, doubts and oposite opinions
in this list as a veto for push at this state? Especialy since you asked
for a good consensus ;)

> As such the change goes it, as letting the original author wait even longer
> would be highly discouraging to the author and a bad precedent to contributors.

Of course the work of Samuel is much appreciated. Also, he contributes a
lot!
But does that mean that there can't be a single patch that is build on a
wrong assumption?
And as for now that might well turn out to be the case - lets see what
response comes to the analysis in the other mails this afternoon.

> As said, this doesnt bar this list to provide construtive input on how to proceed.

It might well do the other thing - it's not only developers that are
humans that may get discouraged by the way things go.

Maybe there is a way to try prevent both :)

> P.S.: Also note, that just because this is now in on master it would be
>        impossible to undo for a release. But I would really hate to do that, as
>        there is an opportunity to push this forward and let Samuel make this better in
>        4.3. As said, that would need a quick and conclusive description on where to go
>        from here.

I'm eager to learn what the real problem is that is solved with the patch.

Kind regards,
Cor

--
  - Cor Nouws
  - http://nl.libreoffice.org
  - The Document Foundation Membership Committee Member
_______________________________________________
Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list
[hidden email]
http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
Cor Nouws Cor Nouws
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

In reply to this post by Adolfo Jayme Barrientos-3
Adolfo Jayme Barrientos wrote (23-11-13 17:22)

> Both bugs (tiny navigation buttons and tiny sheet tabs) have the same
> root cause: they’re placed on (and depend on the size of) scrollbars.
> That’s why I mentioned those tabs.

Ah, ok that makes sense of course. But still does not make the tabs
(width) problem supportive for the removal of the other controls.


--
  - Cor Nouws
  - http://nl.libreoffice.org
  - The Document Foundation Membership Committee Member
_______________________________________________
Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list
[hidden email]
http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
Bjoern Michaelsen Bjoern Michaelsen
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

In reply to this post by Cor Nouws
Hi,

On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 09:21:11PM +0100, Cor Nouws wrote:
> One couuld also judge the many questions, doubts and oposite
> opinions in this list as a veto for push at this state? Especialy
> since you asked for a good consensus ;)

Nope. AFAIK we set up ux-advise to give developers directions when they are
lost. There was no clean direction to be derived from the discussion even after
one week (or two month after the patch was proposed).

As there is no clean consensus here on where to go instead of what was proposed
in the patch, giving this inclonclusiveness veto power would be a moral hazard
that would bog us down very quickly.

Going forward, it might make sense to make the requests for advise on this list
timeboxed (e.g. one week) at least for patches ready to go on gerrit -- which
would mean this list would need to selforganize to provide a conclusive verdit
and advise on the question at the end of an elaborate discussion.

> But does that mean that there can't be a single patch that is build
> on a wrong assumption?

Maybe. But as long as there is no good proposal on what to do instead, that
isnt relevant.

This doesnt mean thst this suddenly is the final call on this. We should mostly
avoid dogmatic 'this was decided, so we will never change it again.' stances.

Actually, I see this happening in a positive way: You are directly engaging
with Samuel on the topic, and in the end this will certainly improve the
product in the end.

Best,

Bjoern
_______________________________________________
Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list
[hidden email]
http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
Bjoern Michaelsen Bjoern Michaelsen
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

In reply to this post by Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi,

On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 01:02:03PM +0100, bjoern wrote:
> there is a patch to remove the navigator from the scrollbar:
>
>  https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/6045/

Just to give my personal opinion on this:

- it breaks some UIs expectations on the UI (e.g. OSX overlay scrollbars)
- having this navigation at that position in the scrollbar is unique to LO/AOO
  -- that is generally a bad thing
- it violates at least the Gnome HIGs:
  https://developer.gnome.org/hig-book/stable/principles-consistency.html.en
  likely similar advise can be found in other HIGs:
   https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/AppleHIGuidelines/Intro/Intro.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP30000894-TP6
   http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/Aa511258.aspx
   http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Usability/HIG
- non-representative end user testing (read asking non-geek friends) shows
  almost nobody who hasnt read the manuals knows what these buttons do
  (which is a bad sign for its dicoverability) -- if even some people on this
  thread are confused about what it is for, its a _very_ bad sign

So, the current situation is less than optimal in many ways and everyone who
voted for keeping the status quo so far appeared to me to be a power user,
which is not representative at all. OTOH, implementing this differently should
allow making this feature accessable and usable to _both_ power user and Joe
Average Sixpack end user.

Best,

Bjoern
_______________________________________________
Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list
[hidden email]
http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
Jean-Francois Nifenecker Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

Le 24/11/2013 13:33, bjoern a écrit :
>
> So, the current situation is less than optimal in many ways and
> everyone who voted for keeping the status quo so far appeared to me
> to be a power user, which is not representative at all. OTOH,
> implementing this differently should allow making this feature
> accessable and usable to _both_ power user and Joe Average Sixpack
> end user.

it is very clear to me that every people subscribing to this list are
most probably power users. John Doe's preoccupations aren't on a UX
angle, at least on the beginning (until he becomes a power user ;)

I've made at least two proposals in this thread about this question:

1. Don't get rid of the three-button thingy and place it at the *top* of
the vertical scrollbar, where the mouse travel is shorter.

-> this keeps the Navigation buttons

2. Transfer the navigation buttons/bar to the Search bar, as navigating
is somewhat searching, thus quite similar in intend from the user.

-> I'd received one only (negative) answer which motivations are unclear
to me.


So, to summarize this discussion so far, the consensus you'd asked for
is either "don't touch that" or "transfert the functionality to some
place where John Doe can find it as easily as he would now". My two
proposals above are going that route.

HTH,
--
Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux
_______________________________________________
Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list
[hidden email]
http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
Bjoern Michaelsen Bjoern Michaelsen
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

Hi,

On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 02:18:38PM +0100, Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote:
> 1. Don't get rid of the three-button thingy and place it at the *top* of
> the vertical scrollbar, where the mouse travel is shorter.
>
> -> this keeps the Navigation buttons

This still is a 'unique' thing, and likely still conflicts with most HIGs.
 
> 2. Transfer the navigation buttons/bar to the Search bar, as navigating
> is somewhat searching, thus quite similar in intend from the user.
>
> -> I'd received one only (negative) answer which motivations are unclear
> to me.

That sounds like a workable starting point to me.

Best,

Bjoern
_______________________________________________
Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list
[hidden email]
http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
Samuel Mehrbrodt-2 Samuel Mehrbrodt-2
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

In reply to this post by Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi,

finally it's time to decide how to proceed. I created a poll with
(hopefully) all suggestions mentioned in this thread and ask everyone to
share their opinion there: http://doodle.com/pcbb859qgnapxz33

If an option is missing, please let me know.

Thanks
Samuel

Am 14.11.2013 13:02, schrieb bjoern:

> Hi guys,
>
> there is a patch to remove the navigator from the scrollbar:
>
>   https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/6045/
>
> Could you guys form a good consensus on if that should be done in the first
> place or not, as that patch is block on that right now. Needs to be clarified
> best before 4.2 branchoff.
>
> Best,
>
> Bjoern

_______________________________________________
Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list
[hidden email]
http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
Jean-Baptiste Faure Jean-Baptiste Faure
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

Hi Samuel,

Le 30/11/2013 15:17, Samuel Mehrbrodt a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> finally it's time to decide how to proceed. I created a poll with
> (hopefully) all suggestions mentioned in this thread and ask everyone to
> share their opinion there: http://doodle.com/pcbb859qgnapxz33
>
> If an option is missing, please let me know.

In addition to the option "in an extra toolbar", we could have "in the
standard toolbar" : if we have the zoom button there, why not the
navigation (multi-)button ?

Best regards.
JBF

--
Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents.
_______________________________________________
Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list
[hidden email]
http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
Samuel Mehrbrodt-2 Samuel Mehrbrodt-2
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

Ok,

I've added that option to the poll.
Those who have already entered their choice should update it.

Thanks
Samuel

Am 01.12.2013 11:53, schrieb Jean-Baptiste Faure:

> Hi Samuel,
>
> Le 30/11/2013 15:17, Samuel Mehrbrodt a écrit :
>> Hi,
>>
>> finally it's time to decide how to proceed. I created a poll with
>> (hopefully) all suggestions mentioned in this thread and ask everyone to
>> share their opinion there: http://doodle.com/pcbb859qgnapxz33
>>
>> If an option is missing, please let me know.
> In addition to the option "in an extra toolbar", we could have "in the
> standard toolbar" : if we have the zoom button there, why not the
> navigation (multi-)button ?
>
> Best regards.
> JBF
>

_______________________________________________
Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list
[hidden email]
http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
Cor Nouws Cor Nouws
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

In reply to this post by Samuel Mehrbrodt-2
Hi Samuel, all,

Samuel Mehrbrodt wrote (30-11-13 15:17)
> finally it's time to decide how to proceed. I created a poll with
> (hopefully) all suggestions mentioned in this thread and ask everyone to
> share their opinion there: http://doodle.com/pcbb859qgnapxz33
>
> If an option is missing, please let me know.

Before adding my votes, I would like to know more about the option "in
the Search bar".
Is the idea that, if added there, it would be done with the same
controls as are at the top of the Navigator already?
Because in my interface I see problems with e.g. the needed vertical
space for as it is done now at the bottom of the scroll bar.

thanks,

Cor

--
  - Cor Nouws
  - http://nl.libreoffice.org
  - The Document Foundation Membership Committee Member
_______________________________________________
Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list
[hidden email]
http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
Samuel Mehrbrodt-2 Samuel Mehrbrodt-2
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

Hi Cor,

the three buttons which were below the scrollbar would now be in the
search bar in the default toolbar size (horizontally aligned).

Seems that's an option most people would agree on. I'll let the poll
there until Tuesday, 3rd Dezember evening, then I'll close it.
So if someone still wants to vote, please do it until then.

Thanks
Samuel

Am 02.12.2013 08:42, schrieb Cor Nouws:

> Hi Samuel, all,
>
> Samuel Mehrbrodt wrote (30-11-13 15:17)
>> finally it's time to decide how to proceed. I created a poll with
>> (hopefully) all suggestions mentioned in this thread and ask everyone to
>> share their opinion there: http://doodle.com/pcbb859qgnapxz33
>>
>> If an option is missing, please let me know.
>
> Before adding my votes, I would like to know more about the option "in
> the Search bar".
> Is the idea that, if added there, it would be done with the same
> controls as are at the top of the Navigator already?
> Because in my interface I see problems with e.g. the needed vertical
> space for as it is done now at the bottom of the scroll bar.
>
> thanks,
>
> Cor
>

_______________________________________________
Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list
[hidden email]
http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
Samuel Mehrbrodt-2 Samuel Mehrbrodt-2
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

In reply to this post by Samuel Mehrbrodt-2
Thanks for all who participated, I've now closed the poll.
The favourite location is in the search bar. 6/13 voted "Yes", 6/13
voted "If need be" and only 1/13 voted "No".
You can still see the exact votes: http://doodle.com/pcbb859qgnapxz33

I'll try to implement this in the near future.

Regards,
Samuel

Am 30.11.2013 15:17, schrieb Samuel Mehrbrodt:

> Hi,
>
> finally it's time to decide how to proceed. I created a poll with
> (hopefully) all suggestions mentioned in this thread and ask everyone
> to share their opinion there: http://doodle.com/pcbb859qgnapxz33
>
> If an option is missing, please let me know.
>
> Thanks
> Samuel

_______________________________________________
Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list
[hidden email]
http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
12 « Prev