Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2019-May-09

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Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2019-May-09

Present: Franklin, Heiko

Tickets

 * Insert image not in a new paragraph but in the current position or as character
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45778
     + anchor as character and alignment "Base line at top" to comply with MS Word
     + q in ask.libreoffice.org
     + drawback of current alignment on paragraph is that more than one image adds on top of the other (Franklin)
   + see also https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87720
     + most word processors anchor as character
     + RFE: introduce an option how to anchor be default
   + provide user-defined defaults at tools > option (Csongor)
     + clutters options a bit (Franklin)
     + we could do it as expert option (Heiko)
   + alternatively keep the last used settings
     + might not work as you modify properties subsequently and we would have to store
       properties at any time when changed
   => changing the default anchoring to 'as character' sounds good
   =>  providing agreement by ESC, ask the community and introduce the option when there is a split

 * Rename tabbed layout to notebookbar
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125009
   + renaming is desirable (Franklin)
   + "Verbose/Compact Catalogues" (Heiko)
   + separate MUFFIN more clearly (Stuart)
   => ask on the marketing ML for input

 * Context toolbar make jumping ui
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124835
   + make the single toolbar as MUFFIN (Heiko)
   + show contextual toolbars on bottom (Stuart)
   + put contextual toolbars in the sidebar (Stuart)
   + combine toolbars and have a contextual section (Maxim, Thomas)
   => go with Maxim's solution as this received the most agreement

 * Formula result has different alignment than regular values
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124860
   + switch on "Number Recognition"?
   => discussion ongoing at BZ (ticket might be a WFM now, @Cor)


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Cor Nouws Cor Nouws
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Re: Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2019-May-09

Hi,

Sorry I could not join. Thanks for the preparations and discussion!
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Heiko Tietze wrote on 5/9/19 3:01 PM:

>  * Insert image not in a new paragraph but in the current position or as character
>    => changing the default anchoring to 'as character' sounds good

I would definitely support that (apart from other useful but much more
complicated ideas). It has been more than once that I helped customers
changing the default in templates.

>  * Formula result has different alignment than regular values
>    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124860
>    + switch on "Number Recognition"?
>    => discussion ongoing at BZ (ticket might be a WFM now, @Cor)

See my comment of just now:
  https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124860#c27
So both code pointer (and maybe later) UX-input appreciated.

greetings,
Cor


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Re: Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2019-May-09

Cor Nouws wrote on 5/9/19 3:23 PM:

> I would definitely support that (apart from other useful but much more
> complicated ideas). It has been more than once that I helped customers
> changing the default in templates.

Correcting myself: *at* character is the prefered default (thanks for
Regina for waking me up ! )


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Re: Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2019-May-09

In reply to this post by htietze

> Heiko Tietze <[hidden email]> hat am 9. Mai 2019 um 15:01 geschrieben:
>
>
> (...)
>    + see also https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87720
>      + most word processors anchor as character
>      + RFE: introduce an option how to anchor be default
>    + provide user-defined defaults at tools > option (Csongor)
>      + clutters options a bit (Franklin)
>      + we could do it as expert option (Heiko)
>    + alternatively keep the last used settings
>      + might not work as you modify properties subsequently and we would have to store
>        properties at any time when changed
>    => changing the default anchoring to 'as character' sounds good
>    =>  providing agreement by ESC, ask the community and introduce the option when there is a split
>

Another drawback was that anchoring images "To paragraph" made them harder to select by keyboard users: https://adod.idrc.ocadu.ca/oowriter#tech4 


>  (...)

Best regards,

Christophe Strobbe

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