Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2020-Jan-06

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Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2020-Jan-06

Present: Sascha, Heiko, (Steve)
Comments: Stuart, Jan, Gerhard, Regina, Thomas, MikeK, Seth

Tickets/Topic

  * VIEWING Enhancement: Show cursor position as percentage of document
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138982
    + nice to have but rather as document statistics with line/column
      number (Heiko); OP replied: "not suited for my use case"
    + limited value to our 'Benjamin' users (Stuart)
    + Writer is not a layout program (Sascha)
    => WF

  * VIEW MENU: Replace View>Show Horizontal Scroll Bar/Vertical Scroll Bar
    with single menu entry
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138538
    + pointless change; modifications to the main menu need very good
      reason (Roman, Stuart)
    + many programs like GIMP and Inkscape switch all SB on/off; but
      LibreOffice has a submenu for the scrollbars individually (Sascha)
      + scrollbars belong to the OS/DE and whether they be small or hide
        after a while is up to the system (Heiko)
      + scrollbars have a high value as they show the document position
      + comparison with image editors is bad because canvas is moved per mouse
    + rulers have a master switch with a shortcut (Sascha)
      + but a weird interaction with checkboxes that are not independent
    + we could improve the rulers, have a master switch plus both vertical and
      horizontal options - and the same for scrollbars with the advantage of
      a shortcut to switch (both) scrollbars off (Sascha)
      + doubt the use case; horizontal scrolling, ie. high zoom level,
        is very unusual (Heiko)
    + benefit is that LibreOffice becomes more familiar with other tools (Sascha)
    => does not hurt to add the command but has low priority

  * UI: Label "type" & Image  in the image properties dialog not really helpful
    (self-explaining)
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138844
    + no change for sake of changing, Image may remain Image (Gerhard)
    + Type is misleading (Regina)
    + Type => Position and Size, Image => Flip and Rotation (Heiko)
      + Image could be just Rotation (Sascha)
    + charts and formula objects also use "Type" (for position and size
      information), text box and shapes "Position and Size"
      + "Rotation" is used at shapes too
    => do it

  * Add bulk-save/bulk-close options for documents
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101247
    + multi-document interface (MDI) instead of an application with one interface
      for all documents/graphics is are rather not suited for this method
    + optional if implementation is easy with less maintenance (Jan, Thomas)
    + special workflow, better realized per macro (Sascha)
    + don't see the benefit from one dialog with many checkboxes for
      MDI documents (would be different in case of SDI) (Heiko)
    + command "Save All" works fine anyway (Sascha)
    + "Close All" without asking to save changes is a dangerous function
      and I'm strongly against it (Heiko)
    => WF (not much benefit with some effort)

  * The "Strong" button when added to a toolbar shows "Strong Emphasis"
    not Strong
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136686
    + keep "Strong Emphasis" and rename the UNO command (MikeK)
    => follow Mike's suggestion

  * Using Ctrl + Shift + B and Ctrl + Shift + I for Emphasis and Strong Emphasis
    character styles (and change Super/Subscript keyboard shortcuts)
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108015
    + rather alt+shift+e/s for _E_mphasis and _S_trong Emphasis (Seth)
    + Strong Emphasis might be bold but could be any other style (see also
      bug 136686 comment 8 above); therefore the association with direct
      formatting is misleading
    + it's not possible to customize character style shortcuts (bug 106785)
      neither is one assigned
    => keep the CS empty and resolve ticket as WF


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