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Printing from Linux, Kubuntu/Ubuntu

Hi :)
I am just hoping some kind person will signpost me to the proper
forums so that they can help me with a couple of printing issues.  I
gather that CUPS is no longer used but i'm not sure and i don't know
what has replaced it.


At last my work-place has a couple of machines entirely using just
Kubuntu/Ubuntu and no Windows at all.

With Kubuntu LibreOffice couldn't open files on the file-server but i
fudged it by installing the whole Ubuntu DE (Unity DE and tweaks) and
now people have no problems using Kubuntu.  Printing to the
photocopier or the B&W laser printer is fine.

The only problem is trying to print to the colour printer, an Oki
C810, for which there seem to be hundreds of linux drivers but none of
them seem to work.  Actually i have only tried about a dozen drivers
but it's tricky to test them especially if my boss is around.

Also although the Kubuntu machines have no trouble printing to the B&W
photocopier but Ubuntu ones can't cope.  I have no idea how to find
the drivers on the Kubuntu machines and copy them onto the Ubuntu
ones.

Regards from
Tom :)

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On 01/21/2015 08:02 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> I am just hoping some kind person will signpost me to the proper
> forums so that they can help me with a couple of printing issues.  I
> gather that CUPS is no longer used but i'm not sure and i don't know
> what has replaced it.

I do not know what is the replacement to CUPS, since every drive I use
for Ubuntu and Mint needs CUPS.  SO, I install in "manually" via the
standard package manager for the distro.  My default "printer" is the
CUPS PDF "system".  That way I have not accidental printing to any
specialized printer that I have on my network, which saves paper and ink.

>
> At last my work-place has a couple of machines entirely using just
> Kubuntu/Ubuntu and no Windows at all.
>
> With Kubuntu LibreOffice couldn't open files on the file-server but i
> fudged it by installing the whole Ubuntu DE (Unity DE and tweaks) and
> now people have no problems using Kubuntu.  Printing to the
> photocopier or the B&W laser printer is fine.
>
> The only problem is trying to print to the colour printer, an Oki
> C810, for which there seem to be hundreds of linux drivers but none of
> them seem to work.  Actually i have only tried about a dozen drivers
> but it's tricky to test them especially if my boss is around.

Which version are you using for Ubuntu-based OS?  I have some Canon
printers no longer work properly when Ubuntu 14.04 came out.  Needed
dependencies not longer we supported by 14.04, but was supported by 13.10.

> Also although the Kubuntu machines have no trouble printing to the B&W
> photocopier but Ubuntu ones can't cope.  I have no idea how to find
> the drivers on the Kubuntu machines and copy them onto the Ubuntu
> ones.
>
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>


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Re: Printing from Linux, Kubuntu/Ubuntu

Hi :)
Ahh, mostly the Ubuntu's at work are 14.04.  So i might have a try at
a LiveUsb or multi-boot with an earlier version alongside the existing
set-ups or something.

Thanks Tim ! :)

Errr, i think the drivers and apps and such are still called CUPS but
i think the forums and websites retired didn't they?  Is there
somewhere such as LinuxPrinting.Org?  I might have to have more of a
look tomorrow or sometime.
Thanks so far and regards from
Tom :)


On 21 January 2015 at 13:37, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster
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> On 01/21/2015 08:02 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
>>
>> Hi :)
>> I am just hoping some kind person will signpost me to the proper
>> forums so that they can help me with a couple of printing issues.  I
>> gather that CUPS is no longer used but i'm not sure and i don't know
>> what has replaced it.
>
>
> I do not know what is the replacement to CUPS, since every drive I use for
> Ubuntu and Mint needs CUPS.  SO, I install in "manually" via the standard
> package manager for the distro.  My default "printer" is the CUPS PDF
> "system".  That way I have not accidental printing to any specialized
> printer that I have on my network, which saves paper and ink.
>
>>
>> At last my work-place has a couple of machines entirely using just
>> Kubuntu/Ubuntu and no Windows at all.
>>
>> With Kubuntu LibreOffice couldn't open files on the file-server but i
>> fudged it by installing the whole Ubuntu DE (Unity DE and tweaks) and
>> now people have no problems using Kubuntu.  Printing to the
>> photocopier or the B&W laser printer is fine.
>>
>> The only problem is trying to print to the colour printer, an Oki
>> C810, for which there seem to be hundreds of linux drivers but none of
>> them seem to work.  Actually i have only tried about a dozen drivers
>> but it's tricky to test them especially if my boss is around.
>
>
> Which version are you using for Ubuntu-based OS?  I have some Canon printers
> no longer work properly when Ubuntu 14.04 came out.  Needed dependencies not
> longer we supported by 14.04, but was supported by 13.10.
>
>
>> Also although the Kubuntu machines have no trouble printing to the B&W
>> photocopier but Ubuntu ones can't cope.  I have no idea how to find
>> the drivers on the Kubuntu machines and copy them onto the Ubuntu
>> ones.
>>
>> Regards from
>> Tom :)
>>
>
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Tom:

CUPS still seems to be alive and well; in fact, I'm not sure how we could get along without it.

It is listed in the Ubuntu repository, although has always been installed by default on any installation I've done (admittedly, not a whole lot though). If you use the Software Center, make sure to check any other additions you might require (I have everything but OpenPrinting installed).

If you need to install it separately, you can download it from http://www.cups.org/software.php.

I hope this helps ...

Frank
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Hi :)
Thanks :)  I'm trying to find a forum or somewhere i can ask questions.

Someone off-list gave me a link to a thread at linuxquestions.org and
that has given me a couple of things to check up on.  However i was
hoping for a way of reaching people who have specialised in printing
issues or have some expertise or special interest.  LinuxQuestions is
a bit too generic.

Is there a forum at the Cups website?  I thought there used to be one
but i can't find one now.
Regards from
Tom :)



On 22 January 2015 at 14:20, CVAlkan <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Tom:
>
> CUPS still seems to be alive and well; in fact, I'm not sure how we could
> get along without it.
>
> It is listed in the Ubuntu repository, although has always been installed by
> default on any installation I've done (admittedly, not a whole lot though).
> If you use the Software Center, make sure to check any other additions you
> might require (I have everything but OpenPrinting installed).
>
> If you need to install it separately, you can download it from
> http://www.cups.org/software.php.
>
> I hope this helps ...
>
> Frank
>
>
>
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On 01/22/2015 08:57 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

> Hi :)
> Thanks :)  I'm trying to find a forum or somewhere i can ask questions.
>
> Someone off-list gave me a link to a thread at linuxquestions.org and
> that has given me a couple of things to check up on.  However i was
> hoping for a way of reaching people who have specialised in printing
> issues or have some expertise or special interest.  LinuxQuestions is
> a bit too generic.
>
> Is there a forum at the Cups website?  I thought there used to be one
> but i can't find one now.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>

Tom,

I read this group using gmane, so I searched it for cups and got 7 hits,
including comp.printing.cups.general and comp.sysutils.apcupsd.user.

Maybe they will be useful to you.

Regards,  Jim

>
> On 22 January 2015 at 14:20, CVAlkan <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Tom:
>>
>> CUPS still seems to be alive and well; in fact, I'm not sure how we could
>> get along without it.
>>
>> It is listed in the Ubuntu repository, although has always been installed by
>> default on any installation I've done (admittedly, not a whole lot though).
>> If you use the Software Center, make sure to check any other additions you
>> might require (I have everything but OpenPrinting installed).
>>
>> If you need to install it separately, you can download it from
>> http://www.cups.org/software.php.
>>
>> I hope this helps ...
>>
>> Frank
>>
>>
>>
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Hi :)
Brilliant!  Thanks :)  I use Nabble and can hardly ever find anything
from the archives.  So, that's another win for the news-groups vs
pretty gui styles.

Suddenly got a lot of other printers giving me a bit of grief but they
should be quick fixes - Such as i didn't realise the foam rollers
(about 1-3cm long) need occasional dusting to help avoid paper-jams.
1 at the front and 2 hidden up inside where the paper-tray goes.  So
this is already on a back-burner for now and it might even be a week
before i can try to tackle it again!

Anyway, so many thanks to everyone who has answered, incl Tim Lloyd
off-list link to this ancient thread
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/printer-driver-oki-c810-523af2-ubuntu12-04-kernel-3-2-0-34-generic-pae-4175440032/
Regards from
Tom :)

On 22 January 2015 at 15:44, Jim Byrnes <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On 01/22/2015 08:57 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
>>
>> Hi :)
>> Thanks :)  I'm trying to find a forum or somewhere i can ask questions.
>>
>> Someone off-list gave me a link to a thread at linuxquestions.org and
>> that has given me a couple of things to check up on.  However i was
>> hoping for a way of reaching people who have specialised in printing
>> issues or have some expertise or special interest.  LinuxQuestions is
>> a bit too generic.
>>
>> Is there a forum at the Cups website?  I thought there used to be one
>> but i can't find one now.
>> Regards from
>> Tom :)
>>
>
> Tom,
>
> I read this group using gmane, so I searched it for cups and got 7 hits,
> including comp.printing.cups.general and comp.sysutils.apcupsd.user.
>
> Maybe they will be useful to you.
>
> Regards,  Jim
>
>
>>
>> On 22 January 2015 at 14:20, CVAlkan <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Tom:
>>>
>>> CUPS still seems to be alive and well; in fact, I'm not sure how we could
>>> get along without it.
>>>
>>> It is listed in the Ubuntu repository, although has always been installed
>>> by
>>> default on any installation I've done (admittedly, not a whole lot
>>> though).
>>> If you use the Software Center, make sure to check any other additions
>>> you
>>> might require (I have everything but OpenPrinting installed).
>>>
>>> If you need to install it separately, you can download it from
>>> http://www.cups.org/software.php.
>>>
>>> I hope this helps ...
>>>
>>> Frank
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Printing-from-Linux-Kubuntu-Ubuntu-tp4136908p4137067.html
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I do not know if you can multi-boot two different versions of Ubuntu
based distro,  or so I was told a few years ago.

Be nice to have 13.10 for my photo printing on my default photo printer
and 14.04LTS or newer for the rest of the work.

As someone told me - off list - CUPS should be installed with the
distro, but in my experience not all of the versions I have installed do
so until you need it for a "dependency" for a printer driver.



On 01/21/2015 01:19 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

> Hi :)
> Ahh, mostly the Ubuntu's at work are 14.04.  So i might have a try at
> a LiveUsb or multi-boot with an earlier version alongside the existing
> set-ups or something.
>
> Thanks Tim ! :)
>
> Errr, i think the drivers and apps and such are still called CUPS but
> i think the forums and websites retired didn't they?  Is there
> somewhere such as LinuxPrinting.Org?  I might have to have more of a
> look tomorrow or sometime.
> Thanks so far and regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
> On 21 January 2015 at 13:37, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> On 01/21/2015 08:02 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
>>> Hi :)
>>> I am just hoping some kind person will signpost me to the proper
>>> forums so that they can help me with a couple of printing issues.  I
>>> gather that CUPS is no longer used but i'm not sure and i don't know
>>> what has replaced it.
>>
>> I do not know what is the replacement to CUPS, since every drive I use for
>> Ubuntu and Mint needs CUPS.  SO, I install in "manually" via the standard
>> package manager for the distro.  My default "printer" is the CUPS PDF
>> "system".  That way I have not accidental printing to any specialized
>> printer that I have on my network, which saves paper and ink.
>>
>>> At last my work-place has a couple of machines entirely using just
>>> Kubuntu/Ubuntu and no Windows at all.
>>>
>>> With Kubuntu LibreOffice couldn't open files on the file-server but i
>>> fudged it by installing the whole Ubuntu DE (Unity DE and tweaks) and
>>> now people have no problems using Kubuntu.  Printing to the
>>> photocopier or the B&W laser printer is fine.
>>>
>>> The only problem is trying to print to the colour printer, an Oki
>>> C810, for which there seem to be hundreds of linux drivers but none of
>>> them seem to work.  Actually i have only tried about a dozen drivers
>>> but it's tricky to test them especially if my boss is around.
>>
>> Which version are you using for Ubuntu-based OS?  I have some Canon printers
>> no longer work properly when Ubuntu 14.04 came out.  Needed dependencies not
>> longer we supported by 14.04, but was supported by 13.10.
>>
>>
>>> Also although the Kubuntu machines have no trouble printing to the B&W
>>> photocopier but Ubuntu ones can't cope.  I have no idea how to find
>>> the drivers on the Kubuntu machines and copy them onto the Ubuntu
>>> ones.
>>>
>>> Regards from
>>> Tom :)
>>>
>>
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On 01/22/2015 11:03 AM, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
>
> I do not know if you can multi-boot two different versions of Ubuntu
> based distro,  or so I was told a few years ago.

I'm pretty sure I have done so in the past, but not doing so now.

Wouldn't it be more convenient to install 13.10 in a VirtualBox?  Then
you could just open it when you need it instead of having to boot to a
particular Ubuntu.

Reagrds,  Jim

> Be nice to have 13.10 for my photo printing on my default photo printer
> and 14.04LTS or newer for the rest of the work.
>
> As someone told me - off list - CUPS should be installed with the
> distro, but in my experience not all of the versions I have installed do
> so until you need it for a "dependency" for a printer driver.
>
>
>
> On 01/21/2015 01:19 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
>> Hi :)
>> Ahh, mostly the Ubuntu's at work are 14.04.  So i might have a try at
>> a LiveUsb or multi-boot with an earlier version alongside the existing
>> set-ups or something.
>>
>> Thanks Tim ! :)
>>
>> Errr, i think the drivers and apps and such are still called CUPS but
>> i think the forums and websites retired didn't they?  Is there
>> somewhere such as LinuxPrinting.Org?  I might have to have more of a
>> look tomorrow or sometime.
>> Thanks so far and regards from
>> Tom :)
>>
>>
>> On 21 January 2015 at 13:37, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> On 01/21/2015 08:02 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
>>>> Hi :)
>>>> I am just hoping some kind person will signpost me to the proper
>>>> forums so that they can help me with a couple of printing issues.  I
>>>> gather that CUPS is no longer used but i'm not sure and i don't know
>>>> what has replaced it.
>>>
>>> I do not know what is the replacement to CUPS, since every drive I
>>> use for
>>> Ubuntu and Mint needs CUPS.  SO, I install in "manually" via the
>>> standard
>>> package manager for the distro.  My default "printer" is the CUPS PDF
>>> "system".  That way I have not accidental printing to any specialized
>>> printer that I have on my network, which saves paper and ink.
>>>
>>>> At last my work-place has a couple of machines entirely using just
>>>> Kubuntu/Ubuntu and no Windows at all.
>>>>
>>>> With Kubuntu LibreOffice couldn't open files on the file-server but i
>>>> fudged it by installing the whole Ubuntu DE (Unity DE and tweaks) and
>>>> now people have no problems using Kubuntu.  Printing to the
>>>> photocopier or the B&W laser printer is fine.
>>>>
>>>> The only problem is trying to print to the colour printer, an Oki
>>>> C810, for which there seem to be hundreds of linux drivers but none of
>>>> them seem to work.  Actually i have only tried about a dozen drivers
>>>> but it's tricky to test them especially if my boss is around.
>>>
>>> Which version are you using for Ubuntu-based OS?  I have some Canon
>>> printers
>>> no longer work properly when Ubuntu 14.04 came out.  Needed
>>> dependencies not
>>> longer we supported by 14.04, but was supported by 13.10.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Also although the Kubuntu machines have no trouble printing to the B&W
>>>> photocopier but Ubuntu ones can't cope.  I have no idea how to find
>>>> the drivers on the Kubuntu machines and copy them onto the Ubuntu
>>>> ones.
>>>>
>>>> Regards from
>>>> Tom :)
>>>>
>>>
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Re: Printing from Linux, Kubuntu/Ubuntu

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Yes, I agree with you, BUT. . .
When I upgrade to a newer version of Ubuntu via the Update Manager
system, I get a message about CUPS being depreciated and no longer
used.  So it is Removed from the upgraded system.  That is when I have
to reinstall it, along with my CUPS-PDF package.  Of course that package
gives the depreciated message as well, but I know of no other PDF file
printer for Ubuntu either.





On 01/22/2015 09:20 AM, CVAlkan wrote:

> Tom:
>
> CUPS still seems to be alive and well; in fact, I'm not sure how we could
> get along without it.
>
> It is listed in the Ubuntu repository, although has always been installed by
> default on any installation I've done (admittedly, not a whole lot though).
> If you use the Software Center, make sure to check any other additions you
> might require (I have everything but OpenPrinting installed).
>
> If you need to install it separately, you can download it from
> http://www.cups.org/software.php.
>
> I hope this helps ...
>
> Frank
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Printing-from-Linux-Kubuntu-Ubuntu-tp4136908p4137067.html
> Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>


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Hi :)
I almost always have at least 4 partitions;  1 for swap, 1 for /home
or just to put my data on and 2 to have different distros or different
versions of the same distro on.  On some machines i multi-boot between
half a dozen different versions of Ubuntu (but always intend to clean
it up down to just 2 or 3).
Regards from
Tom :)


On 22 January 2015 at 17:40, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster
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>
> Yes, I agree with you, BUT. . .
> When I upgrade to a newer version of Ubuntu via the Update Manager system, I
> get a message about CUPS being depreciated and no longer used.  So it is
> Removed from the upgraded system.  That is when I have to reinstall it,
> along with my CUPS-PDF package.  Of course that package gives the
> depreciated message as well, but I know of no other PDF file printer for
> Ubuntu either.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 01/22/2015 09:20 AM, CVAlkan wrote:
>>
>> Tom:
>>
>> CUPS still seems to be alive and well; in fact, I'm not sure how we could
>> get along without it.
>>
>> It is listed in the Ubuntu repository, although has always been installed
>> by
>> default on any installation I've done (admittedly, not a whole lot
>> though).
>> If you use the Software Center, make sure to check any other additions you
>> might require (I have everything but OpenPrinting installed).
>>
>> If you need to install it separately, you can download it from
>> http://www.cups.org/software.php.
>>
>> I hope this helps ...
>>
>> Frank
>>
>>
>>
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Good afternoon,
My PC's OS is windows 7prof.-64bit (where LO 4.3.4.1)
My intention is to (again try to) convert to Linux and shall now install
Ubuntu (vers. 14.04.1 ready on a DVD)
in a virtualbox and use that for creating database applications with
SQLite(3) (& Apache & PHP) and expect
having LO/Base as a front end.

Am I to understand from this thread that I am getting printing problems
with
Linux in such an installation?

If so, what version of Ubuntu is then safe and reliable?
My printer is a KonicaMinolta magicolor 1600w.
Grateful for any advice
Pertti Rönnberg


On 23.1.2015 11:33, Tom Davies wrote:

> Hi :)
> I almost always have at least 4 partitions;  1 for swap, 1 for /home
> or just to put my data on and 2 to have different distros or different
> versions of the same distro on.  On some machines i multi-boot between
> half a dozen different versions of Ubuntu (but always intend to clean
> it up down to just 2 or 3).
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
> On 22 January 2015 at 17:40, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Yes, I agree with you, BUT. . .
>> When I upgrade to a newer version of Ubuntu via the Update Manager system, I
>> get a message about CUPS being depreciated and no longer used.  So it is
>> Removed from the upgraded system.  That is when I have to reinstall it,
>> along with my CUPS-PDF package.  Of course that package gives the
>> depreciated message as well, but I know of no other PDF file printer for
>> Ubuntu either.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 01/22/2015 09:20 AM, CVAlkan wrote:
>>> Tom:
>>>
>>> CUPS still seems to be alive and well; in fact, I'm not sure how we could
>>> get along without it.
>>>
>>> It is listed in the Ubuntu repository, although has always been installed
>>> by
>>> default on any installation I've done (admittedly, not a whole lot
>>> though).
>>> If you use the Software Center, make sure to check any other additions you
>>> might require (I have everything but OpenPrinting installed).
>>>
>>> If you need to install it separately, you can download it from
>>> http://www.cups.org/software.php.
>>>
>>> I hope this helps ...
>>>
>>> Frank
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Pertti:

If you are running Ubuntu (or anything else as far as I know) in a Virtual Box, you don't have access to any hardware unless it is recognized by the host system. But if your printer functions properly on the host system (and you set up virtualbox carefully), it should work fine on Ubuntu.

The issues I encounter all seem to be related to LOWriter, so if you have no issues with that on your host, it seems to me fairly likely that you should be ok. In any case, if it doesn't work you haven't lost anything.

Just as a matter of curiosity, are you looking to a linux distro just to use SQLite and Apache? Or was there some other consideration driving that choice?

Frank
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Frank,
Thank you very much for your soon reply  -- I was just working on the
installations.
The printer seems to be working on the Windows so let us hope it will
work OK with the VirtualBox&Ubuntu too.

Earlier 10-15years ago I used Windows&Ubuntu parallell but then I had to
rebuild my PC completely and for some reason
never installed the Ubuntu again - perhaps too complicated -- but I
never gave up the idea skipping windows.
Now I re-installed system&programs again and decided to start working
with Ubuntu again.
Next step is to learn using Apache&SQLite for my need of databases. I
used to work with MSAccess but am not interested in
spending money on purchasing and was told that SQLite is easier and not
so heavy as MySQL. Do not know yet.
Anyway I find this interesting and think it is a healthy exercise for an
old brain too (75y)

So any guides and ideas how I shall proceed to get SQLite(3) to run in
Ubuntu are welcome.
Kind regards
Pertti Rönnberg


On 24.1.2015 14:22, CVAlkan wrote:

> Pertti:
>
> If you are running Ubuntu (or anything else as far as I know) in a Virtual
> Box, you don't have access to any hardware unless it is recognized by the
> host system. But if your printer functions properly on the host system (and
> you set up virtualbox carefully), it should work fine on Ubuntu.
>
> The issues I encounter all seem to be related to LOWriter, so if you have no
> issues with that on your host, it seems to me fairly likely that you should
> be ok. In any case, if it doesn't work you haven't lost anything.
>
> Just as a matter of curiosity, are you looking to a linux distro just to use
> SQLite and Apache? Or was there some other consideration driving that
> choice?
>
> Frank
>
>
>
> --
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Hi Pertti:

I also am one of the old crowd, so I understand.

The database question is probably going quite off-topic (although still part of this forum), so I'll just make a few comments.

The first is that, since you are already running LibreOffice, can I presume that you've looked at its "Base" component. If you notice, there are lots of discussions about that on this forum, so you should have little problem getting answers to most questions. The manuals for all the components of LibreOffice are also available for free download, so that is a plus as well.

I personally don't use Base, as I'm an old database person and prefer to use "real" database management products. Although most of these cost actual money, a few of them have free personal-use products. If you go to http://www.antikytherapubs.com/ and click on the "Oracle Installation Tutorial for 64 bit Ubuntu" you'll find a pdf I put together on how to acquire, load, and use Oracle XE (the personal version) on Ubuntu (it's actually intended for Red Hat Linux, but isn't at all difficult to get running on Ubuntu). If you're looking to "dig in" to relational theory and all that good stuff, Oracle is a much better choice than some of the "personal" products out there.

Good Luck keeping the brain cells functioning, and let us know how the Printer situation turns out ...

Frank
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Is there any need to have Linux in a VirtualBox or could you just boot
to Linux on your computer - as a dual booting one?

I run laptops with Win7 [pro and home] with Ubuntu on one and Linux Mint
on another.

There are some things I need to run on Windows, that are easier to use
than any Linux counterpart.  But my default booting for these laptops is
Linux.  I went to Linux as my default OS in the Spring of 2010 , when I
bought this desktop.  I originally was using Linux before that on
"spare" system when the cost of buying the needed software using Windows
was getting too much for my budget. I found the needed software
"functions and applications" for free with Linux [Ubuntu and others].  
Actually I defaulted to Ubuntu since its Live CD was the only one that
allowed my HP laptop's audio to work "out of the box".

As for old brains, well after 3 strokes, I am lucky my younger brain
still works.  I think "healthy exercise" for the brain is important,
whether you are in you 40's or 80's.  My wife has end-stage Alzheimer's
and I really know the importance in keeping you mind as active as you
can to help reduce the effects of age on your mental abilities.

I am a little "slower" in doing things due to an illness that just will
not go away, but I am learning to live with it, just like learning to
live with what the strokes left me to work with.


On 01/24/2015 08:55 AM, Pertti Rönnberg wrote:

>
> Frank,
> Thank you very much for your soon reply  -- I was just working on the
> installations.
> The printer seems to be working on the Windows so let us hope it will
> work OK with the VirtualBox&Ubuntu too.
>
> Earlier 10-15years ago I used Windows&Ubuntu parallell but then I had
> to rebuild my PC completely and for some reason
> never installed the Ubuntu again - perhaps too complicated -- but I
> never gave up the idea skipping windows.
> Now I re-installed system&programs again and decided to start working
> with Ubuntu again.
> Next step is to learn using Apache&SQLite for my need of databases. I
> used to work with MSAccess but am not interested in
> spending money on purchasing and was told that SQLite is easier and
> not so heavy as MySQL. Do not know yet.
> Anyway I find this interesting and think it is a healthy exercise for
> an old brain too (75y)
>
> So any guides and ideas how I shall proceed to get SQLite(3) to run in
> Ubuntu are welcome.
> Kind regards
> Pertti Rönnberg
>
>
> On 24.1.2015 14:22, CVAlkan wrote:
>> Pertti:
>>
>> If you are running Ubuntu (or anything else as far as I know) in a
>> Virtual
>> Box, you don't have access to any hardware unless it is recognized by
>> the
>> host system. But if your printer functions properly on the host
>> system (and
>> you set up virtualbox carefully), it should work fine on Ubuntu.
>>
>> The issues I encounter all seem to be related to LOWriter, so if you
>> have no
>> issues with that on your host, it seems to me fairly likely that you
>> should
>> be ok. In any case, if it doesn't work you haven't lost anything.
>>
>> Just as a matter of curiosity, are you looking to a linux distro just
>> to use
>> SQLite and Apache? Or was there some other consideration driving that
>> choice?
>>
>> Frank
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> View this message in context:
>> http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Printing-from-Linux-Kubuntu-Ubuntu-tp4136908p4137269.html
>> Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
>
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2015-01-21 14:02 GMT+01:00 Tom Davies <[hidden email]>:

> Hi :)
> I am just hoping some kind person will signpost me to the proper
> forums so that they can help me with a couple of printing issues.  I
> gather that CUPS is no longer used but i'm not sure and i don't know
> what has replaced it.
>
>
> At last my work-place has a couple of machines entirely using just
> Kubuntu/Ubuntu and no Windows at all.
>
> With Kubuntu LibreOffice couldn't open files on the file-server but i
> fudged it by installing the whole Ubuntu DE (Unity DE and tweaks) and
> now people have no problems using Kubuntu.  Printing to the
> photocopier or the B&W laser printer is fine.
>
> The only problem is trying to print to the colour printer, an Oki
> C810, for which there seem to be hundreds of linux drivers but none of
> them seem to work.  Actually i have only tried about a dozen drivers
> but it's tricky to test them especially if my boss is around.
>
> Also although the Kubuntu machines have no trouble printing to the B&W
> photocopier but Ubuntu ones can't cope.  I have no idea how to find
> the drivers on the Kubuntu machines and copy them onto the Ubuntu
> ones.
>
> Regards from
> Tom :)


​Tom have you tried this link : ​
http://foo2hiperc.rkkda.com/
​ ? I'm told it works on Ubuntu....

With regard to CUPS, if I don't misremember, those file were automatically
installed on my (64-bit) Linux Mint 17.1, so I'm a tad surprised to hear
that they weren't on Ubuntu 14.04 even if, admittedly, the two distros are
not entirely identical....

Henri​

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Hi,

I've been running Ubuntu since 8.10, and have had every version though
14.04. Since 14.10 had minimal changes and since 14.04 is a Long Term
Service release, I didn't upgrade to 14.10. Every version has been the
standard, including all of the versions with Unity. All have had cups
installed in the standard install. I almost always have done clean
installs, and not upgrades.

Don

On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 2:39 PM, M Henri Day <[hidden email]> wrote:

> 2015-01-21 14:02 GMT+01:00 Tom Davies <[hidden email]>:
>
> > Hi :)
> > I am just hoping some kind person will signpost me to the proper
> > forums so that they can help me with a couple of printing issues.  I
> > gather that CUPS is no longer used but i'm not sure and i don't know
> > what has replaced it.
> >
> >
> > At last my work-place has a couple of machines entirely using just
> > Kubuntu/Ubuntu and no Windows at all.
> >
> > With Kubuntu LibreOffice couldn't open files on the file-server but i
> > fudged it by installing the whole Ubuntu DE (Unity DE and tweaks) and
> > now people have no problems using Kubuntu.  Printing to the
> > photocopier or the B&W laser printer is fine.
> >
> > The only problem is trying to print to the colour printer, an Oki
> > C810, for which there seem to be hundreds of linux drivers but none of
> > them seem to work.  Actually i have only tried about a dozen drivers
> > but it's tricky to test them especially if my boss is around.
> >
> > Also although the Kubuntu machines have no trouble printing to the B&W
> > photocopier but Ubuntu ones can't cope.  I have no idea how to find
> > the drivers on the Kubuntu machines and copy them onto the Ubuntu
> > ones.
> >
> > Regards from
> > Tom :)
>
>
> ​Tom have you tried this link : ​
> http://foo2hiperc.rkkda.com/
> ​ ? I'm told it works on Ubuntu....
>
> With regard to CUPS, if I don't misremember, those file were automatically
> installed on my (64-bit) Linux Mint 17.1, so I'm a tad surprised to hear
> that they weren't on Ubuntu 14.04 even if, admittedly, the two distros are
> not entirely identical....
>
> Henri​
>
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Hi :)
Yeh i have Cups installed but this Oki printer is annoying even on
Windows.  For the other Oki printer the company were kind enough to
include a Ppd file on their installer Cd and on their website so all i
needed to do there was double-click on that file.

Mostly Hewlett Packard printers work well with almsot anything.  As it
happens they tend to be a LOT more rugged and last a lot longer with a
lot less maintenance.  Also inks and toners tend to cost a lot less.
So running costs tend to be a lot lower but ymmv.  Sadly a lot of
businesses see ancient Hp's in other people's offices and fancy
getting something a bit more modern looking and shiny.  They don't
seem to think about why all other makes tend to look a lot newer.

Cannon are a bit hit&miss.  It's difficult to figure out which
companies are good and which tend to be a bit rubbish.  Sometimes the
Ppd driver file is on the European version of a company's website but
blocked from being accessed in the US or some other countries!  Some
printers only need a little bit of work to get them working.  Lots
work easily but an annoying amount are still very tricky.

Also it can vary a LOT between different models.  It's not even a case
that newer models work better so it's not easy to predict which will
work and which is going to be troublesome.

I'd just about given up on ever getting the Oki C810 to ever work and
just relied on using the Oki MB471 instead, until i installed Kubuntu
and noticed it getting some sort of response from the C810.


If i have a choice over which type of printer to get i go with Hewlett
Packard.  I did sign the petition against them investing so much in
drone technology that has been known (apparently) to kill innocent
civilians and generally terrorise people and invading their privacy.
However a LOT of tech companies are guilty of that.  The petition i
signed covered a lot of them.

I think it might help if more of us grumble directly to manufacturers
and point out that with the rise of Android, Chrome,  iThings (and
others) that they need to start support non-Windows systems more
reliably.  People might stop buying printers that don't work with most
of the systems they use!

Regards from
Tom :)





On 25 January 2015 at 23:38, Don Myers <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've been running Ubuntu since 8.10, and have had every version though
> 14.04. Since 14.10 had minimal changes and since 14.04 is a Long Term
> Service release, I didn't upgrade to 14.10. Every version has been the
> standard, including all of the versions with Unity. All have had cups
> installed in the standard install. I almost always have done clean installs,
> and not upgrades.
>
> Don
>
> On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 2:39 PM, M Henri Day <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> 2015-01-21 14:02 GMT+01:00 Tom Davies <[hidden email]>:
>>
>> > Hi :)
>> > I am just hoping some kind person will signpost me to the proper
>> > forums so that they can help me with a couple of printing issues.  I
>> > gather that CUPS is no longer used but i'm not sure and i don't know
>> > what has replaced it.
>> >
>> >
>> > At last my work-place has a couple of machines entirely using just
>> > Kubuntu/Ubuntu and no Windows at all.
>> >
>> > With Kubuntu LibreOffice couldn't open files on the file-server but i
>> > fudged it by installing the whole Ubuntu DE (Unity DE and tweaks) and
>> > now people have no problems using Kubuntu.  Printing to the
>> > photocopier or the B&W laser printer is fine.
>> >
>> > The only problem is trying to print to the colour printer, an Oki
>> > C810, for which there seem to be hundreds of linux drivers but none of
>> > them seem to work.  Actually i have only tried about a dozen drivers
>> > but it's tricky to test them especially if my boss is around.
>> >
>> > Also although the Kubuntu machines have no trouble printing to the B&W
>> > photocopier but Ubuntu ones can't cope.  I have no idea how to find
>> > the drivers on the Kubuntu machines and copy them onto the Ubuntu
>> > ones.
>> >
>> > Regards from
>> > Tom :)
>>
>>
>> Tom have you tried this link :
>> http://foo2hiperc.rkkda.com/
>> ? I'm told it works on Ubuntu....
>>
>> With regard to CUPS, if I don't misremember, those file were automatically
>> installed on my (64-bit) Linux Mint 17.1, so I'm a tad surprised to hear
>> that they weren't on Ubuntu 14.04 even if, admittedly, the two distros are
>> not entirely identical....
>>
>> Henri
>>
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On 01/26/2015 06:02 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

> Hi :)
> Yeh i have Cups installed but this Oki printer is annoying even on
> Windows.  For the other Oki printer the company were kind enough to
> include a Ppd file on their installer Cd and on their website so all i
> needed to do there was double-click on that file.
>
> Mostly Hewlett Packard printers work well with almsot anything.  As it
> happens they tend to be a LOT more rugged and last a lot longer with a
> lot less maintenance.  Also inks and toners tend to cost a lot less.
> So running costs tend to be a lot lower but ymmv.  Sadly a lot of
> businesses see ancient Hp's in other people's offices and fancy
> getting something a bit more modern looking and shiny.  They don't
> seem to think about why all other makes tend to look a lot newer.

HP third-party ink are hit or miss for working properly - due to the new
chips added to their ink cartridges.  Their ink tank technology is a bit
different so it is easier to get the non-OEM ink to work.

Canon third-party ink seems to not have as much issues.

Yes, the newer Canon printers are getting more hit or miss for Linux
support.  Also, there are dependency issues for the older printers on
14.04 and above so that the photos and images colors are really off.  
This desktop is still using 13.xx based OS since my default photo
printer has that issue.  The newest fax printer [plus photos] does not
have that issue, but it does not have the best tray to use for ease of
switching photo paper to various sizes.



> Cannon are a bit hit&miss.  It's difficult to figure out which
> companies are good and which tend to be a bit rubbish.  Sometimes the
> Ppd driver file is on the European version of a company's website but
> blocked from being accessed in the US or some other countries!  Some
> printers only need a little bit of work to get them working.  Lots
> work easily but an annoying amount are still very tricky.
>
> Also it can vary a LOT between different models.  It's not even a case
> that newer models work better so it's not easy to predict which will
> work and which is going to be troublesome.
>
> I'd just about given up on ever getting the Oki C810 to ever work and
> just relied on using the Oki MB471 instead, until i installed Kubuntu
> and noticed it getting some sort of response from the C810.
>
>
> If i have a choice over which type of printer to get i go with Hewlett
> Packard.  I did sign the petition against them investing so much in
> drone technology that has been known (apparently) to kill innocent
> civilians and generally terrorise people and invading their privacy.
> However a LOT of tech companies are guilty of that.  The petition i
> signed covered a lot of them.
>
> I think it might help if more of us grumble directly to manufacturers
> and point out that with the rise of Android, Chrome,  iThings (and
> others) that they need to start support non-Windows systems more
> reliably.  People might stop buying printers that don't work with most
> of the systems they use!
>
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>

Chrome/Android and printers - bad news if you do not have a Windows
system to host the print server.


>
>
>
> On 25 January 2015 at 23:38, Don Myers <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've been running Ubuntu since 8.10, and have had every version though
>> 14.04. Since 14.10 had minimal changes and since 14.04 is a Long Term
>> Service release, I didn't upgrade to 14.10. Every version has been the
>> standard, including all of the versions with Unity. All have had cups
>> installed in the standard install. I almost always have done clean installs,
>> and not upgrades.
>>
>> Don
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 2:39 PM, M Henri Day <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> 2015-01-21 14:02 GMT+01:00 Tom Davies <[hidden email]>:
>>>
>>>> Hi :)
>>>> I am just hoping some kind person will signpost me to the proper
>>>> forums so that they can help me with a couple of printing issues.  I
>>>> gather that CUPS is no longer used but i'm not sure and i don't know
>>>> what has replaced it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At last my work-place has a couple of machines entirely using just
>>>> Kubuntu/Ubuntu and no Windows at all.
>>>>
>>>> With Kubuntu LibreOffice couldn't open files on the file-server but i
>>>> fudged it by installing the whole Ubuntu DE (Unity DE and tweaks) and
>>>> now people have no problems using Kubuntu.  Printing to the
>>>> photocopier or the B&W laser printer is fine.
>>>>
>>>> The only problem is trying to print to the colour printer, an Oki
>>>> C810, for which there seem to be hundreds of linux drivers but none of
>>>> them seem to work.  Actually i have only tried about a dozen drivers
>>>> but it's tricky to test them especially if my boss is around.
>>>>
>>>> Also although the Kubuntu machines have no trouble printing to the B&W
>>>> photocopier but Ubuntu ones can't cope.  I have no idea how to find
>>>> the drivers on the Kubuntu machines and copy them onto the Ubuntu
>>>> ones.
>>>>
>>>> Regards from
>>>> Tom :)
>>>
>>> Tom have you tried this link :
>>> http://foo2hiperc.rkkda.com/
>>> ? I'm told it works on Ubuntu....
>>>
>>> With regard to CUPS, if I don't misremember, those file were automatically
>>> installed on my (64-bit) Linux Mint 17.1, so I'm a tad surprised to hear
>>> that they weren't on Ubuntu 14.04 even if, admittedly, the two distros are
>>> not entirely identical....
>>>
>>> Henri
>>>
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