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Olav Dahlum Olav Dahlum
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Proposal for a more updated and modern standard icon theme.

Hi.

I know a lot of you is emotionally attached to older icon themes as
Tango, but isn't it about time we made some refreshing changes in the
default theme? Like proposing a new theme altogether. But also taking
into consideration that we'll need accessible ones conforming to
accessibility standards. Keeping the classical ones possibly as
extensions is also an idea. I'm no graphical wizard, so I'll just
propose talented people to think this over, or the rest of us spreading
the word. Fresh start and fresh look, with the classical interface
intact, isn't such a bad idea is it?

Regards,

Olav Dahlum
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Hi Olav,

Olav Dahlum wrote (08-10-10 16:53)
> I know a lot of you is emotionally attached to older icon themes as
> Tango, but isn't it about time we made some refreshing changes in the
> default theme? Like proposing a new theme altogether. But also taking
> into consideration that we'll need accessible ones conforming to
> accessibility standards. Keeping the classical ones possibly as
> extensions is also an idea. I'm no graphical wizard, so I'll just
> propose talented people to think this over, or the rest of us spreading
> the word. Fresh start and fresh look, with the classical interface
> intact, isn't such a bad idea is it?

IMO this is a very good idea.
So lets see which talented people pick it up and join the dev-list
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Kindest regards,
Cor

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Christoph Noack-2 Christoph Noack-2
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Hi Olav,

just a short note concerning the icons - yes, icons are a very visible
way of changing the look and the overall appearance of the office suite.
I also hope that we will be possible to have some coordinated effort to
improve them - e.g. why not partner with the Tango3 team? However,
please consider that we talk about thousands of icons that are
required ...

Stella (Oracle) did a very good job in refreshing the icons in the last
years. And the invested a lot of effort ... she showed me (real) folders
of icons she printed to improve the underlying methaphors. This is
_real_ hard work, but maybe we have brave guys around? ;-)

Cheers,
Christoph

Am Freitag, den 08.10.2010, 16:53 +0200 schrieb Olav Dahlum:
> Fresh start and fresh look, with the classical interface
> intact, isn't such a bad idea is it?

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Charles Marcus Charles Marcus
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On 2010-10-08 10:53 AM, Olav Dahlum wrote:
> I know a lot of you is emotionally attached to older icon themes as
> Tango, but isn't it about time we made some refreshing changes in
> the default theme? Like proposing a new theme altogether. But also
> taking into consideration that we'll need accessible ones conforming
> to accessibility standards. Keeping the classical ones possibly as
> extensions is also an idea. I'm no graphical wizard, so I'll just
> propose talented people to think this over, or the rest of us
> spreading the word. Fresh start and fresh look, with the classical
> interface intact, isn't such a bad idea is it?

A good place to start might be with the custom icon pack developed by
ed2 on the Issue Tracker for this open Issue (see the final version, the
past attachment in the list):

http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=112141

Most people (myself included) actually liked the new design, our gripe
was with the loss of the colors (I still cannot fathom how anyone would
have thought that was a good idea)...

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Olav Dahlum Olav Dahlum
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 On 08/10/10 20:15, Christoph Noack wrote:

> Hi Olav,
>
> just a short note concerning the icons - yes, icons are a very visible
> way of changing the look and the overall appearance of the office suite.
> I also hope that we will be possible to have some coordinated effort to
> improve them - e.g. why not partner with the Tango3 team? However,
> please consider that we talk about thousands of icons that are
> required ...
>
> Stella (Oracle) did a very good job in refreshing the icons in the last
> years. And the invested a lot of effort ... she showed me (real) folders
> of icons she printed to improve the underlying methaphors. This is
> _real_ hard work, but maybe we have brave guys around? ;-)
>
> Cheers,
> Christoph
>

Thanks for your reply. Yep, this is a massive effort, so partnering up
is not a bad idea.
Would love to see some of the work out there.
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 On 08/10/10 20:37, Charles Marcus wrote:

> On 2010-10-08 10:53 AM, Olav Dahlum wrote:
>> I know a lot of you is emotionally attached to older icon themes as
>> Tango, but isn't it about time we made some refreshing changes in
>> the default theme? Like proposing a new theme altogether. But also
>> taking into consideration that we'll need accessible ones conforming
>> to accessibility standards. Keeping the classical ones possibly as
>> extensions is also an idea. I'm no graphical wizard, so I'll just
>> propose talented people to think this over, or the rest of us
>> spreading the word. Fresh start and fresh look, with the classical
>> interface intact, isn't such a bad idea is it?
> A good place to start might be with the custom icon pack developed by
> ed2 on the Issue Tracker for this open Issue (see the final version, the
> past attachment in the list):
>
> http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=112141
>
> Most people (myself included) actually liked the new design, our gripe
> was with the loss of the colors (I still cannot fathom how anyone would
> have thought that was a good idea)...
>

Yep, the new menu icons and such is nice, but sadly just limited to
these areas. Let's see what people can come up with to freshen up the
gui in general.
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On 2010-10-08 3:14 PM, Olav Dahlum wrote:

>  On 08/10/10 20:37, Charles Marcus wrote:
>> A good place to start might be with the custom icon pack developed by
>> ed2 on the Issue Tracker for this open Issue (see the final version, the
>> past attachment in the list):
>>
>> http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=112141
>>
>> Most people (myself included) actually liked the new design, our gripe
>> was with the loss of the colors (I still cannot fathom how anyone would
>> have thought that was a good idea)...

> Yep, the new menu icons and such is nice, but sadly just limited to
> these areas. Let's see what people can come up with to freshen up the
> gui in general.

Ummm... those aren't just 'menu' icons - those are mainly the DOCUMENT
icons - the ones you see when you are browsing your filesystem looking
for that spreadsheet, and now all you see are a bunch of grey icons that
look virtually identical. It also includes the icons for the - whatever
you call it, the 'Start' page that I have never used...

Anyway, it is more than just 'menu' icons...

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