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Row height in Writer tables

This is driving me nuts.

LO 7.0.2.2 on Xubuntu 20.04, up to date.

I have two tables in a Writer document, each with about 25 rows. After
hours spent poking at dozens of different settings I finally got one of
them with 16 point rows, but after applying all the same settings to
the second one the text is still squished. I'm finding tables to be
hopelessly unintuitive.

You have Size > Row Height, you have Paragraph > Leading, you have
Boundaries > Padding, and probably several more that I have fiddled
with. And some of these don't even work - I applied Paragraph > Leading,
where the drop-down had nothing in it and the point size box said 100%,
so I changed it to Fixed and 16 points, and applied it. When I went
back to Paragraph > Leading it was back to nothing in the drop-down and
100% for the point size. No error messages, it just failed to take my
settings. What the heck?

I need a way to make every row a specific point size that always 'just
works.' Is that possible?

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Re: Row height in Writer tables

Greetings,
I do this to get my tables the way I want them to be.

1) Normally, table content has the style "Table Contents" assigned to
it. Edit that style (View > Styles, then right click on Table Contents
and select Modify... in the style list) and make sure the spacing
before and after the paragraph are zero and the the line spacing is
single (on the Indents & Spacing tab). If they are not zero and the
spacing is not single, you will not get the results you are hoping for.
2) Create your table; make sure the assigned style is indeed Table
Contents. Set it to that otherwise (select the table, apply the style).
Set the vertical alignment to Middle to center the text in the row if
the font size is small - this is purely cosmetic.
3) Go to the Table Properties, and set the up and down border paddings
to zero. I sually leave the Left/Right to whatever value they have.
4) Select the table and set the row heigth to 0,22 inches (72 points
per inch), or 0.56cm. Make sure when you set the height that you
uncheck the Fit to size box

This should work.
Best regards,
Rémy.

Le mardi 29 décembre 2020 à 12:35 -0800, John Jason Jordan a écrit :

> This is driving me nuts.
>
> LO 7.0.2.2 on Xubuntu 20.04, up to date.
>
> I have two tables in a Writer document, each with about 25 rows. After
> hours spent poking at dozens of different settings I finally got one of
> them with 16 point rows, but after applying all the same settings to
> the second one the text is still squished. I'm finding tables to be
> hopelessly unintuitive.
>
> You have Size > Row Height, you have Paragraph > Leading, you have
> Boundaries > Padding, and probably several more that I have fiddled
> with. And some of these don't even work - I applied Paragraph > Leading,
> where the drop-down had nothing in it and the point size box said 100%,
> so I changed it to Fixed and 16 points, and applied it. When I went
> back to Paragraph > Leading it was back to nothing in the drop-down and
> 100% for the point size. No error messages, it just failed to take my
> settings. What the heck?
>
> I need a way to make every row a specific point size that always 'just
> works.' Is that possible?
>

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Re: Row height in Writer tables

Remy,

Thanks for your reply. When I set table contents to single the table
suddenly looked correct. So my problem is solved, but I am still
confused. Both tables look correct now, but note below how the settings
are different:

Table 1
Everything set to Default Paragraph Style, which is set to 16 points
fixed leading. Table Contents style is not applied. Padding is all set
to -0-. Cell height is all set to 16 points, and Fit to Size is not
checked.

Table 2
This table was originally set the same as Table 1, but the text was all
squished and row height was half what it needed to be. I changed the
Table Contents style to Single and applied it to the entire table. On
doing that the table all suddenly appeared correct, except that row 2
(which is a header and has a 0.5 point rule under it) appeared with the
text right on top of the rule. I fixed it by adding 0.5 point bottom
padding to just that row. I probably should have just centered the row,
per your suggestion.

So now everything in Table 1 is set to Default Paragraph Style and
everything in Table 2 is set to Table Contents. They look identical,
i.e., Table 2 rows are also 16 points, even though the Table Contents
style is set to Single.


On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 17:56:32 -0500
Remy Gauthier <[hidden email]> dijo:

>Greetings,
>I do this to get my tables the way I want them to be.
>
>1) Normally, table content has the style "Table Contents" assigned to
>it. Edit that style (View > Styles, then right click on Table Contents
>and select Modify... in the style list) and make sure the spacing
>before and after the paragraph are zero and the the line spacing is
>single (on the Indents & Spacing tab). If they are not zero and the
>spacing is not single, you will not get the results you are hoping for.
>2) Create your table; make sure the assigned style is indeed Table
>Contents. Set it to that otherwise (select the table, apply the style).
>Set the vertical alignment to Middle to center the text in the row if
>the font size is small - this is purely cosmetic.
>3) Go to the Table Properties, and set the up and down border paddings
>to zero. I sually leave the Left/Right to whatever value they have.
>4) Select the table and set the row heigth to 0,22 inches (72 points
>per inch), or 0.56cm. Make sure when you set the height that you
>uncheck the Fit to size box
>
>This should work.
>Best regards,
>Rémy.
>
>Le mardi 29 décembre 2020 à 12:35 -0800, John Jason Jordan a écrit :
>> This is driving me nuts.
>>
>> LO 7.0.2.2 on Xubuntu 20.04, up to date.
>>
>> I have two tables in a Writer document, each with about 25 rows.
>> After hours spent poking at dozens of different settings I finally
>> got one of them with 16 point rows, but after applying all the same
>> settings to the second one the text is still squished. I'm finding
>> tables to be hopelessly unintuitive.
>>
>> You have Size > Row Height, you have Paragraph > Leading, you have
>> Boundaries > Padding, and probably several more that I have fiddled
>> with. And some of these don't even work - I applied Paragraph >
>> Leading, where the drop-down had nothing in it and the point size
>> box said 100%, so I changed it to Fixed and 16 points, and applied
>> it. When I went back to Paragraph > Leading it was back to nothing
>> in the drop-down and 100% for the point size. No error messages, it
>> just failed to take my settings. What the heck?
>>
>> I need a way to make every row a specific point size that always
>> 'just works.' Is that possible?
>>  

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