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John Jason Jordan-2 John Jason Jordan-2
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View issues with 6.07 from Ubuntu repositories

I had LO 6.3.3.2 installed, downloaded from LO. But I was unable to
correct the line spacing in the Styles and Formatting toolbar, and
trying to fix it I discovered that it would hang if I clicked on Tools >
Customize. After much effort I gave up and uninstalled 6.3.3.2, and
then installed 6.07 from the Ubuntu repositories. Tools > Customize
no longer hangs the program, but now I have other problems.

I keep my toolbars floating off to the right. Here is an image:
https://imgur.com/YISfwld

The Formatting toolbar was missing more than half the icons, replaced
with the text for the function. For example, instead of an icon showing
a character with a line above it, I saw just 'overline.' I tried to add
the correct icon by customizing the toolbar, but there were only a
couple dozen icons available, and none for overline. I have installed
all the themes I can find and, although in Tools > Options I can now
select different sets of icons, the only one which has all the icons is
Breeze. Are there more icon sets available somewhere?

There is an even worse problem. I cannot view the Styles and Formatting
toolbar at all. When I select it the toolbar flashes for a split second
on the screen and then disappears. It doesn't matter if I select it
with Formatting > Styles and Formatting or with F11. With 6.3.3.2 the
line spacing for the styles was off, and now the toolbar can't even be
viewed. I'm going from bad to worse.

Furthermore, the scrollbars are the thickness of a pencil lead; just
about impossible to hit with the mouse. I know that this is because of
an issue with gtk3, but the gtk3 integration package is properly
installed. The scrollbars appear correctly in all my other
applications, so I don't know why they are unusable in LO.

LO is unusable without styles and scrollbars. Can someone offer
suggestions for how to fix these issues?

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Re: View issues with 6.07 from Ubuntu repositories

Hi John Jason,

did you try to reset the user-profile?
(home/user/.config/libreoffice/4)

Regards

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Re: View issues with 6.07 from Ubuntu repositories

On Sun, 29 Dec 2019 08:20:53 +0100
Robert Großkopf <[hidden email]> dijo:

>Hi John Jason,
>
>did you try to reset the user-profile?
>(home/user/.config/libreoffice/4)

Yes I did. Made no difference.

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Hi John Jason,
>>
>> did you try to reset the user-profile?
>> (home/user/.config/libreoffice/4)
>
> Yes I did. Made no difference.
>
.. and it is the right user-profile for the Ubuntu-version of LO? I
could remember in SUSE there was a different profile, but it changed
sometimes ago to the same profile LO will use, when it has been
installed by the original packages.

Did you install all packages LO needs? I haven't any Ubuntu-version
here, but I know the default installation won't install all LO-packages ...

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Re: View issues with 6.07 from Ubuntu repositories

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Den sön 29 dec. 2019 kl 18:26 skrev John Jason Jordan <[hidden email]>:

> On Sun, 29 Dec 2019 08:20:53 +0100
> Robert Großkopf <[hidden email]> dijo:
>
> >Hi John Jason,
> >
> >did you try to reset the user-profile?
> >(home/user/.config/libreoffice/4)
>
> Yes I did. Made no difference.
>
>
I haven't had Ubuntu for a long time now, but as far as I remember Ubuntu's
LibreOffice versions in the past were kind of funny, I don't remember
exactly what problems I had, and they were always old and outdated.
My solution was to just uninstall the Ubuntu version of LibreOffice and
install the latest version from the LibreOffice site. It's not very hard to
install those and there are instructions how to do it.

Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg


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Re: Sort of SOLVED View issues with 6.07 from Ubuntu repositories

On Sun, 29 Dec 2019 22:12:09 +0100
Johnny Rosenberg <[hidden email]> dijo:

>> >did you try to reset the user-profile?
>> >(home/user/.config/libreoffice/4)

>> Yes I did. Made no difference.

>I haven't had Ubuntu for a long time now, but as far as I remember
>Ubuntu's LibreOffice versions in the past were kind of funny,

Sometimes that's true. In the present instance 6.3.3.2 downloaded from
OO was the kinky one.

I sort of solved the problem with the Styles menu disappearing
instantly on being opened by installing a PPA for my Xubuntu 18.04 and
then using it to do an update. That changed 6.07 from the previous
Ubuntu repositories to 6.3.4.2.

Now the Styles menu appears and stays open. The only problem is that
the list of styles in the window is hard to read and click on because
the line spacing is about half what it should be - each line looks kind
of partially stacked on top of the next one. I am sure that this is
caused by one of the hundreds of settings for my UHD monitor
(3840x2160).

Another problem is that the scrollbars are the thickness of a pencil
lead. I had to set the width manually for both GTK2 and GTK3, and they
appear properly in all my other applications, but 6.3.4.2 is ignoring
the settings, in spite of the fact that libreoffice-gtk3 from the PPA is
installed.

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Heiko Tietze-5 Heiko Tietze-5
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Do you scale the UI for some reason, eg. font size 125%?

On 29.12.19 00:06, John Jason Jordan wrote:

> I had LO 6.3.3.2 installed, downloaded from LO. But I was unable to
> correct the line spacing in the Styles and Formatting toolbar, and
> trying to fix it I discovered that it would hang if I clicked on Tools >
> Customize. After much effort I gave up and uninstalled 6.3.3.2, and
> then installed 6.07 from the Ubuntu repositories. Tools > Customize
> no longer hangs the program, but now I have other problems.
>
> I keep my toolbars floating off to the right. Here is an image:
> https://imgur.com/YISfwld
>
> The Formatting toolbar was missing more than half the icons, replaced
> with the text for the function. For example, instead of an icon showing
> a character with a line above it, I saw just 'overline.' I tried to add
> the correct icon by customizing the toolbar, but there were only a
> couple dozen icons available, and none for overline. I have installed
> all the themes I can find and, although in Tools > Options I can now
> select different sets of icons, the only one which has all the icons is
> Breeze. Are there more icon sets available somewhere?
>
> There is an even worse problem. I cannot view the Styles and Formatting
> toolbar at all. When I select it the toolbar flashes for a split second
> on the screen and then disappears. It doesn't matter if I select it
> with Formatting > Styles and Formatting or with F11. With 6.3.3.2 the
> line spacing for the styles was off, and now the toolbar can't even be
> viewed. I'm going from bad to worse.
>
> Furthermore, the scrollbars are the thickness of a pencil lead; just
> about impossible to hit with the mouse. I know that this is because of
> an issue with gtk3, but the gtk3 integration package is properly
> installed. The scrollbars appear correctly in all my other
> applications, so I don't know why they are unusable in LO.
>
> LO is unusable without styles and scrollbars. Can someone offer
> suggestions for how to fix these issues?
>

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On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 09:48:40 +0100
Heiko Tietze <[hidden email]> dijo:

>Do you scale the UI for some reason, eg. font size 125%?

Sort of. Different parts are set with varying methods. However,
percentages are never used except in web browsers. Fonts are set with
points. Icons and most other matters are set with pixels.

I could scale the entire thing by changing the resolution with xrandr,
e.g., from the native 3840x2160 down to 1920x1080. But why? I didn't
pay for a 4K monitor to run it at 2K.

The problem is that the desktop environment (I use Xfce) has at least
two different settings for icon size, and half a dozen for point size
of text. For example, the window title bar text is one setting, toolbar
text is another setting (which LO does not always respect, by the way),
body text is another setting, and so on.

Although I now have the Styles and Formatting toolbar visible, LO fails
to respect the line spacing of the desktop environment. And someone
decided to hard-code the spacing as a number of pixels for the main
toolbar so, since I had to set the toolbar text big enough to see, the
items appear somewhat smashed together:
FileEditInsertFormatTableToolsLinguisticsWindowHelp.
[Edit: This issue seems to have been resolved with LO
6.3.4.2.] LO is not the only application where column widths are
hard-coded as a number of pixels; I have the same problem with a few
other applications. And many applications, including LO, hard-code the
icon size in toolbars, so the icons are 2-3mm high. For example, in the
Styles and Formatting toolbar I have to hover over an icon to read its
tool-tip in order to know what the icon does. And someone coded the
Styles and Formatting window to be an application window instead of a
toolbar window, so 'Styles and Formatting' is the same point size as
the main window. It all works, it just looks weird.

That's enough of a rant. I'll shut up now. :)

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