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[libreoffice-l10n] Bugs to fix in translations

Hi,

Pootle has many checks, but there are cases which are not covered. You
may remember the style name localization issue from last month.
Therefore I wrote a tool which checked three types of translation
errors:

1. Unique style names.
2. Unique spreadsheet function names.
3. Missing trailing '|' in Windows installer translation.

I uploaded the report to
http://dev-www.libreoffice.org/l10n/error-report/report.txt

I checked 4.1.1 sources.

Affected locales are:
af am ast be bn bn-IN bo br brx bs cy da de dgo dz el en-ZA eo es eu
fa fr gl gu he hi hr id it ka kk km kn ko kok ks ku lb lo lt mai mk ml
mn mni mr my nb ne nl nn nr nso oc om or pa-IN pl pt ro rw sa-IN sat
sd si sid sq ss st sv sw-TZ ta tg th tn tr ts tt ug uz ve vi xh zu

You may want to fix these bugs quickly, because they cause runtime
errors. Unfortunately some locales are unmaintaned. We need to fix
those some day. Many times it does not require knowledge of the
particular language.

Best regards,
Andras

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I uploaded 4.0 report, too:
http://dev-www.libreoffice.org/l10n/error-report/report-4.0.txt

Affected locales are:
am ast be bn bn-IN bo br brx bs cy de dgo dz el es fa fr gl he hi hr
id it ka kk kok ks ku lo mai mk ml mn mni mr my nb ne nl nn nr nso oc
om or pa-IN pl pt ro rw sa-IN sat sd sq ss st sv ta tg tn tr ts ug uz
ve xh zu

Cheers,
Andras

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Bugs to fix in translations

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Hi Andras!

Am 19.08.2013 23:27, schrieb Andras Timar:

>
> Pootle has many checks, but there are cases which are not covered.
> You may remember the style name localization issue from last month.
> Therefore I wrote a tool which checked three types of translation
> errors:
>
> 2. Unique spreadsheet function names.
>
> I uploaded the report to
> http://dev-www.libreoffice.org/l10n/error-report/report.txt
>
> I checked 4.1.1 sources.
>
> Affected locales are: [...] de [...]
>
> You may want to fix these bugs quickly, because they cause runtime
> errors.

In German you searched out, that two Calc function names are translated
identically, although they are different in English: EFFECT and EFFECTIVE.

In Calc the EFFECT function becomes EFFECT_ADD during the EFFECTIVE
function keeps EFFECTIVE, so theese functions could have the same
translation, since they do the same (only the output number format is
different), and they work properly in 4.0 and 4.1 so far. So I would not
correct anything in German.

Regadrs,
Christian.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Bugs to fix in translations

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Hi,

You marked croatian HR locale as affected, but I don't see any strings
in txt file.
I'll correct 4.0 version, forgot to change Heading / Title problem there.

Best regards,
Mihovil

Dana 19.8.2013. 23:27, Andras Timar je napisao:

> Hi,
>
> Pootle has many checks, but there are cases which are not covered. You
> may remember the style name localization issue from last month.
> Therefore I wrote a tool which checked three types of translation
> errors:
>
> 1. Unique style names.
> 2. Unique spreadsheet function names.
> 3. Missing trailing '|' in Windows installer translation.
>
> I uploaded the report to
> http://dev-www.libreoffice.org/l10n/error-report/report.txt
>
> I checked 4.1.1 sources.
>
> Affected locales are:
> af am ast be bn bn-IN bo br brx bs cy da de dgo dz el en-ZA eo es eu
> fa fr gl gu he hi hr id it ka kk km kn ko kok ks ku lb lo lt mai mk ml
> mn mni mr my nb ne nl nn nr nso oc om or pa-IN pl pt ro rw sa-IN sat
> sd si sid sq ss st sv sw-TZ ta tg th tn tr ts tt ug uz ve vi xh zu
>
> You may want to fix these bugs quickly, because they cause runtime
> errors. Unfortunately some locales are unmaintaned. We need to fix
> those some day. Many times it does not require knowledge of the
> particular language.
>
> Best regards,
> Andras
>


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Bugs to fix in translations

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On 20/08/13 09:27, Andras Timar wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Pootle has many checks, but there are cases which are not covered. You
> may remember the style name localization issue from last month.
> Therefore I wrote a tool which checked three types of translation
> errors:
>
> 1. Unique style names.
> 2. Unique spreadsheet function names.
> 3. Missing trailing '|' in Windows installer translation.
>
> I uploaded the report to
> http://dev-www.libreoffice.org/l10n/error-report/report.txt
>
> I checked 4.1.1 sources.
>
> Affected locales are:
> af am ast be bn bn-IN bo br brx bs cy da de dgo dz el en-ZA eo es eu
> fa fr gl gu he hi hr id it ka kk km kn ko kok ks ku lb lo lt mai mk ml
> mn mni mr my nb ne nl nn nr nso oc om or pa-IN pl pt ro rw sa-IN sat
> sd si sid sq ss st sv sw-TZ ta tg th tn tr ts tt ug uz ve vi xh zu
>
> You may want to fix these bugs quickly, because they cause runtime
> errors. Unfortunately some locales are unmaintaned. We need to fix
> those some day. Many times it does not require knowledge of the
> particular language.
>
> Best regards,
> Andras
>
Thanks for doing that.
You reported that in EO, NESIMETRIECO is duplicated, but Pootle did not
find it (I presume it is the UI of 4.1)
I have grep-ed my local copy of the files for it and not found it.
Where I should look for it?

Regards
Donald


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Bugs to fix in translations

Hi,

On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Donald <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Thanks for doing that.
> You reported that in EO, NESIMETRIECO is duplicated, but Pootle did not
> find it (I presume it is the UI of 4.1)
> I have grep-ed my local copy of the files for it and not found it.
> Where I should look for it?

https://translations.documentfoundation.org/eo/libo_ui/translate.html#search=NESIMETRIECO&sfields=target

I found that you translated SKEW and SKEWP as NESIMETRIECO.

Cheers,
Andras

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Bugs to fix in translations

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thanx Andras for this check, galician arranged.

It's a bit strange because I remember I have fix it long time ago
(talking about translation for «title / heading» names)

2013/8/19 Andras Timar <[hidden email]>:

> I uploaded 4.0 report, too:
> http://dev-www.libreoffice.org/l10n/error-report/report-4.0.txt
>
> Affected locales are:
> am ast be bn bn-IN bo br brx bs cy de dgo dz el es fa fr gl he hi hr
> id it ka kk kok ks ku lo mai mk ml mn mni mr my nb ne nl nn nr nso oc
> om or pa-IN pl pt ro rw sa-IN sat sd sq ss st sv ta tg tn tr ts ug uz
> ve xh zu
>
> Cheers,
> Andras
>
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Bugs to fix in translations

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Hi,

On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 5:49 AM, Christian Kühl <[hidden email]> wrote:
> In German you searched out, that two Calc function names are translated
> identically, although they are different in English: EFFECT and EFFECTIVE.
>
> In Calc the EFFECT function becomes EFFECT_ADD during the EFFECTIVE
> function keeps EFFECTIVE, so theese functions could have the same
> translation, since they do the same (only the output number format is
> different), and they work properly in 4.0 and 4.1 so far. So I would not
> correct anything in German.

You are right, it was a false alarm. I fixed this bug in pocheck tool.

Best regards,
Andras

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Consider adding a check for mismatched terminal newlines.  In other
software builds, this type of error can be fatal, not sure about LO.
"newlines" and "endwhitespace" pofilters can catch this, but as a build
killer, a special check might be useful.


On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Andras Timar <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Pootle has many checks, but there are cases which are not covered. You
> may remember the style name localization issue from last month.
> Therefore I wrote a tool which checked three types of translation
> errors:
>
> 1. Unique style names.
> 2. Unique spreadsheet function names.
> 3. Missing trailing '|' in Windows installer translation.
>
> I uploaded the report to
> http://dev-www.libreoffice.org/l10n/error-report/report.txt
>
> I checked 4.1.1 sources.
>
> Affected locales are:
> af am ast be bn bn-IN bo br brx bs cy da de dgo dz el en-ZA eo es eu
> fa fr gl gu he hi hr id it ka kk km kn ko kok ks ku lb lo lt mai mk ml
> mn mni mr my nb ne nl nn nr nso oc om or pa-IN pl pt ro rw sa-IN sat
> sd si sid sq ss st sv sw-TZ ta tg th tn tr ts tt ug uz ve vi xh zu
>
> You may want to fix these bugs quickly, because they cause runtime
> errors. Unfortunately some locales are unmaintaned. We need to fix
> those some day. Many times it does not require knowledge of the
> particular language.
>
> Best regards,
> Andras
>
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Bugs to fix in translations

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On 20/08/13 20:27, Andras Timar wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Donald <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Thanks for doing that.
>> You reported that in EO, NESIMETRIECO is duplicated, but Pootle did not
>> find it (I presume it is the UI of 4.1)
>> I have grep-ed my local copy of the files for it and not found it.
>> Where I should look for it?
>
> https://translations.documentfoundation.org/eo/libo_ui/translate.html#search=NESIMETRIECO&sfields=target
>
> I found that you translated SKEW and SKEWP as NESIMETRIECO.
>
> Cheers,
> Andras
>

Thank you.

Donald

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Bugs to fix in translations

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Hi Chris,

On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Chris Leonard <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Consider adding a check for mismatched terminal newlines.  In other software
> builds, this type of error can be fatal, not sure about LO.  "newlines" and
> "endwhitespace" pofilters can catch this, but as a build killer, a special
> check might be useful.
>

Pootle checks for mismatching terminal newlines. I didn't want to
duplicate pofilter/Pootle checks. I don't know any examples when
mismatching newlines/whitespaces can be fatal in LibreOffice. If
anyone knows about such case, or about other type of translation
errors that we should check for, please let me know.

Thanks,
Andras

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Bugs to fix in translations

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On ചൊവ്വ 20 ആഗസ്റ്റ് 2013 03:05 രാവിലെ, Andras Timar wrote:

> I uploaded 4.0 report, too:
> http://dev-www.libreoffice.org/l10n/error-report/report-4.0.txt
>
> Affected locales are:
> am ast be bn bn-IN bo br brx bs cy de dgo dz el es fa fr gl he hi hr
> id it ka kk kok ks ku lo mai mk ml mn mni mr my nb ne nl nn nr nso oc
> om or pa-IN pl pt ro rw sa-IN sat sd sq ss st sv ta tg tn tr ts ug uz
> ve xh zu
>
> Cheers,
> Andras
>

Fixed issues for ml.

Thanks
Ani


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Bugs to fix in translations

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Fixed in ast for 4.1 & 4.0 by changing function name from TIME>HORA to
TIME>TIEMPU (conflict with HOUR>HORA)

I also changed related translations, but still have to do a second
pass to make sure I didn't miss something.

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On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Andras Timar <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Pootle has many checks, but there are cases which are not covered. You
> may remember the style name localization issue from last month.
> Therefore I wrote a tool which checked three types of translation
> errors:
>
> 1. Unique style names.
> 2. Unique spreadsheet function names.
> 3. Missing trailing '|' in Windows installer translation.
>
> I uploaded the report to
> http://dev-www.libreoffice.org/l10n/error-report/report.txt
>
> I checked 4.1.1 sources.
>
> Affected locales are:
> af am ast be bn bn-IN bo br brx bs cy da de dgo dz el en-ZA eo es eu
> fa fr gl gu he hi hr id it ka kk km kn ko kok ks ku lb lo lt mai mk ml
> mn mni mr my nb ne nl nn nr nso oc om or pa-IN pl pt ro rw sa-IN sat
> sd si sid sq ss st sv sw-TZ ta tg th tn tr ts tt ug uz ve vi xh zu
>
> You may want to fix these bugs quickly, because they cause runtime
> errors. Unfortunately some locales are unmaintaned. We need to fix
> those some day. Many times it does not require knowledge of the
> particular language.
>
> Best regards,
> Andras
>
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[libreoffice-l10n] Wolof

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Hi Ousmane,

> Hi
>
> Let introduce me Ousmane Faty NDongo, I was introduced by Sophie for
> the localization of Wolof. I am writing for my Pootle account rights.
> My user is: usu, my local is: wo
>
> Bests regards
>
> Ousmane
>

Welcome to LibreOffice community. I granted you the necessary rights in
Pootle. You are language admin of Wolof, you can translate/review/add
team members/etc.

Best regards,
Andras


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Bugs to fix in translations

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In data lunedì 19 agosto 2013 23:35:57, Andras Timar ha scritto:
> I uploaded 4.0 report, too:
> http://dev-www.libreoffice.org/l10n/error-report/report-4.0.txt
>
> Affected locales are:
> am ast be bn bn-IN bo br brx bs cy de dgo dz el es fa fr gl he hi hr
> id it ka kk kok ks ku lo mai mk ml mn mni mr my nb ne nl nn nr nso oc
> om or pa-IN pl pt ro rw sa-IN sat sd sq ss st sv ta tg tn tr ts ug uz
> ve xh zu

Done for Italian (it)

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[libreoffice-l10n] Re: Bugs to fix in translations

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Hi,

On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Andras Timar <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Pootle has many checks, but there are cases which are not covered. You
> may remember the style name localization issue from last month.
> Therefore I wrote a tool which checked three types of translation
> errors:
>
> 1. Unique style names.
> 2. Unique spreadsheet function names.
> 3. Missing trailing '|' in Windows installer translation.
>

Thanks to Zeki, I added a 4th check: Math symbol names (from
symbol.src) must not contain spaces
I updated the reports for 4.0.x and 4.1.x. Please note, I tested files
that are in git not that are in Pootle. So you may have fixed some of
these already. In this case, thank you and please ignore that part of
the report. I updated files in git 2 days ago.

http://dev-www.libreoffice.org/l10n/error-report/report-4.0.txt
http://dev-www.libreoffice.org/l10n/error-report/report-4.1.txt

Let's fix all of these bugs for 4.1.2 and 4.0.6 in the coming 1-2 weeks!

Thanks,
Andras

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Bugs to fix in translations

2013/8/22 Andras Timar <[hidden email]>


> Thanks to Zeki, I added a 4th check: Math symbol names (from
> symbol.src) must not contain spaces
>
> http://dev-www.libreoffice.org/l10n/error-report/report-4.0.txt
> http://dev-www.libreoffice.org/l10n/error-report/report-4.1.txt


How should we separate words without space characters? InThisWay?
In_this_way or in-this-one? Are there any guidelines?

Btw. You can find this in Tool > Catalog (Symbol windows)  > Special
symbols.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Bugs to fix in translations

Hi :)
I tend to find using a capital letter at the beginning of each word neatly avoids having to use any character at all between words. 

ForExample LibreOffice is fairly easy to read as 2 separate words. 

I'm not sure what the standard practise is though
Regards from
Tom :) 




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Subject: Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Bugs to fix in translations
 

2013/8/22 Andras Timar <[hidden email]>


> Thanks to Zeki, I added a 4th check: Math symbol names (from
> symbol.src) must not contain spaces
>
> http://dev-www.libreoffice.org/l10n/error-report/report-4.0.txt
> http://dev-www.libreoffice.org/l10n/error-report/report-4.1.txt


How should we separate words without space characters? InThisWay?
In_this_way or in-this-one? Are there any guidelines?

Btw. You can find this in Tool > Catalog (Symbol windows)  > Special
symbols.

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Mihovil Stanic Mihovil Stanic
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Bugs to fix in translations

In reply to this post by Andras Timar
HR all done.

Best regards,
Mihovil

Dana 22.8.2013. 14:08, Andras Timar je napisao:

> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Andras Timar <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Pootle has many checks, but there are cases which are not covered. You
>> may remember the style name localization issue from last month.
>> Therefore I wrote a tool which checked three types of translation
>> errors:
>>
>> 1. Unique style names.
>> 2. Unique spreadsheet function names.
>> 3. Missing trailing '|' in Windows installer translation.
>>
> Thanks to Zeki, I added a 4th check: Math symbol names (from
> symbol.src) must not contain spaces
> I updated the reports for 4.0.x and 4.1.x. Please note, I tested files
> that are in git not that are in Pootle. So you may have fixed some of
> these already. In this case, thank you and please ignore that part of
> the report. I updated files in git 2 days ago.
>
> http://dev-www.libreoffice.org/l10n/error-report/report-4.0.txt
> http://dev-www.libreoffice.org/l10n/error-report/report-4.1.txt
>
> Let's fix all of these bugs for 4.1.2 and 4.0.6 in the coming 1-2 weeks!
>
> Thanks,
> Andras
>


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Bugs to fix in translations

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Hi Tom,
Le 22/08/2013 19:29, Tom Davies a écrit :
> Hi :)
> I tend to find using a capital letter at the beginning of each word neatly avoids having to use any character at all between words.
>
> ForExample LibreOffice is fairly easy to read as 2 separate words.
>
> I'm not sure what the standard practise is though

That is not. It's a practice in English (all the words in the menus are
capitalized in English, but for example in French, it's not accepted)
and I'm sure that in several languages the camel style is not accepted.
We have to find a way that correspond to the current localization
practice in our language.

Kind regards
Sophie


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